Science Talk

The Great Gordo · Guest

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There is a phenomenon called Moral Supremacism. just as superrich
jews still pretend to be holocaust victims living in poor shtetls--so
as to maintain their moral superiority over all white goyim--, even
tremendously successful blacks who never faced obstacles in life still
wanna act like they just got off the slaveship. moral supremacists
equate moral worth by race, ethnicity, or sexual orientation. if your
group is a 'victim group', you are BORN with moral superiority
regardless of what you may have done in life. you can just rest on the
laurels of group identity for moral worth.
of course, this kind of victimology is always selective. all groups
had been victims and victors at different times and places in history.
all ancestors of blacks had been slave owners back in africa; and many
blacks have committed heinous crimes against non-blacks in the US.
japanese had been aggressors against the chinese who had been
aggressors against one another and against tibetans. japan can say US
and other western imperialist powers were the aggressors in asia in
the 19th century and that japan had been the victim. mexicans can say
yankees took mexican land. native indians of mexico can say the
spanish took their land. indigenous peoples who had been oppressed by
the aztecs can say they were victims of aztecs. and, it goes on and on
and on.
therefore, Moral Supremacism that has become so pervasive in our
discussion of 'social justice' and 'historical justice' is bogus.
just consider the jews. they were victims of christians, but many jews
colluded with rich/powerful christians to exploit and oppress poor
christians thru tax collection--so, there were christians who
oppressed jews but also christians who were oppressed by jews. jews
can argue that their ancestors were ordered to do it by the christian
elite and had no choice, but that sounds rather like adolph eichmann
and other germans--and collaborators with the nazis--who said they had
no choice but to follow orders or collaborate in order to survive.

on the one hand, jews have been victims of nazi discrimination and
genocide, but good many leftist jews were oppressors in communist
nations and played a significant role in murdering millions of
christians and 'class enemies'. also, many influential and rich jews
in the US used their power to help the spread of communism all over
the world; those people who fell under communism died in the
millions. so, are jews 'victims of history' or 'victors of history'?
like any other people, they were both, and so the idea of Moral
Supremacism based on race or ethnicity is stupid.

Obama is a notorious Moral Supremacist because he thinks only his kind
can feel and understand 'the pain' of others. Obama thinks he's
morally superior purely based on the historical significance of his
race and his racketeering as a 'community activist'