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 Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:01 am Post subject: What have reptile scales got with bird feathers to do? |
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In
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/30523_150th_Anniversary_of_Theory_of
_Evolution/comments/#ctop
we find:
"Professor David Menton: A professor of anatomy at Washington University,
David Menton, in a speech that was accompanied by a very interesting
computer display, examined the differences between the anatomies of the
feathers of birds and the scales of reptiles, thus proving the invalidity of
the hypothesis that birds evolved from reptiles."
WTF? As far as I know, feathers have nothing with scales to do in the
context of evolution, so what is this guy talking about? Well, he is a
professor and I am only an old nobody, but it is a well known fact that
comparing apples with oranges shows that they are different. |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:34 am Post subject: Re: What have reptile scales got with bird feathers to do? |
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On 2008-07-04, r norman <r_s_norman@_comcast.net> wrote:
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On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 17:31:02 +0200, "Rolf" <rolf.aalberg@tele2.no
wrote:
"r norman" <r_s_norman@_comcast.net> wrote in message
news:q77s64djgqrqedkjhrd3fspkpl27b7qeiu@4ax.com...
On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 11:52:03 +0200, "Rolf" <rolf.aalberg@tele2.no
wrote:
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/30523_150th_Anniversary_of_Theory_o
f
_Evolution/comments/#ctop
we find:
"Professor David Menton: A professor of anatomy at Washington University,
David Menton, in a speech that was accompanied by a very interesting
computer display, examined the differences between the anatomies of the
feathers of birds and the scales of reptiles, thus proving the invalidity
of
the hypothesis that birds evolved from reptiles."
WTF? As far as I know, feathers have nothing with scales to do in the
context of evolution, so what is this guy talking about? Well, he is a
professor and I am only an old nobody, but it is a well known fact that
comparing apples with oranges shows that they are different.
It was previously thought (and not so long ago) that feathers evolved
from scales.
That is right, but I saw a television 'documentary' a couple of years back
about evolution of feathers, with references to how feathers are grown in
the embryonic stage. And of course, AFAIK dinosaur fossils with feathers
have been found. Heck, didn't the Solnhofen Archeopteryx show distinct
feathers?
You are absolutely right -- the "feathers are scales" notion is no
longer held. So the good professor might have been simply a decade
or two out of date rather than completely mendacious. It is also true
that when the distinction between scales and feathers became widely
known, it in no way overturned the "birds evolved from reptiles"
notion using the term "reptile' in the old-fashioned sense but
including dinosaurs.
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I had the opportunity to hear David Menton speak last fall. He made
the bold claim that all Australopithecines found thus far have had
opposable toes, so there you have it about Dr. Menton. |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:31 am Post subject: Re: What have reptile scales got with bird feathers to do? |
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On Jul 4, 10:36 am, "Robert J. Kolker" <bobkol...@comcast.net> wrote:
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Rolf wrote:
WTF? As far as I know, feathers have nothing with scales to do in the
context of evolution, so what is this guy talking about? Well, he is a
professor and I am only an old nobody, but it is a well known fact that
comparing apples with oranges shows that they are different.
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Feathers. Scales. Its all a big Coverup.
Bob Kolker
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:01 am Post subject: Re: What have reptile scales got with bird feathers to do? |
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"B Richardson" <brich@nym.hush.com> wrote in message
news:g4mc2k02ve0@enews5.newsguy.com...
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On 2008-07-04, r norman <r_s_norman@_comcast.net> wrote:
On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 17:31:02 +0200, "Rolf" <rolf.aalberg@tele2.no
wrote:
"r norman" <r_s_norman@_comcast.net> wrote in message
news:q77s64djgqrqedkjhrd3fspkpl27b7qeiu@4ax.com...
On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 11:52:03 +0200, "Rolf" <rolf.aalberg@tele2.no
wrote:
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/30523_150th_Anniversary_of_Theory
_o
f
_Evolution/comments/#ctop
we find:
"Professor David Menton: A professor of anatomy at Washington
University,
David Menton, in a speech that was accompanied by a very interesting
computer display, examined the differences between the anatomies of
the
feathers of birds and the scales of reptiles, thus proving the
invalidity
of
the hypothesis that birds evolved from reptiles."
WTF? As far as I know, feathers have nothing with scales to do in the
context of evolution, so what is this guy talking about? Well, he is
a
professor and I am only an old nobody, but it is a well known fact
that
comparing apples with oranges shows that they are different.
It was previously thought (and not so long ago) that feathers evolved
from scales.
That is right, but I saw a television 'documentary' a couple of years
back
about evolution of feathers, with references to how feathers are grown
in
the embryonic stage. And of course, AFAIK dinosaur fossils with feathers
have been found. Heck, didn't the Solnhofen Archeopteryx show distinct
feathers?
You are absolutely right -- the "feathers are scales" notion is no
longer held. So the good professor might have been simply a decade
or two out of date rather than completely mendacious. It is also true
that when the distinction between scales and feathers became widely
known, it in no way overturned the "birds evolved from reptiles"
notion using the term "reptile' in the old-fashioned sense but
including dinosaurs.
I had the opportunity to hear David Menton speak last fall. He made
the bold claim that all Australopithecines found thus far have had
opposable toes, so there you have it about Dr. Menton.
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:01 am Post subject: Re: What have reptile scales got with bird feathers to do? |
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"B Richardson" <brich@nym.hush.com> wrote in message
news:g4mc2k02ve0@enews5.newsguy.com...
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On 2008-07-04, r norman <r_s_norman@_comcast.net> wrote:
On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 17:31:02 +0200, "Rolf" <rolf.aalberg@tele2.no
wrote:
"r norman" <r_s_norman@_comcast.net> wrote in message
news:q77s64djgqrqedkjhrd3fspkpl27b7qeiu@4ax.com...
On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 11:52:03 +0200, "Rolf" <rolf.aalberg@tele2.no
wrote:
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/30523_150th_Anniversary_of_Theory
_o
f
_Evolution/comments/#ctop
we find:
"Professor David Menton: A professor of anatomy at Washington
University,
David Menton, in a speech that was accompanied by a very interesting
computer display, examined the differences between the anatomies of
the
feathers of birds and the scales of reptiles, thus proving the
invalidity
of
the hypothesis that birds evolved from reptiles."
WTF? As far as I know, feathers have nothing with scales to do in the
context of evolution, so what is this guy talking about? Well, he is
a
professor and I am only an old nobody, but it is a well known fact
that
comparing apples with oranges shows that they are different.
It was previously thought (and not so long ago) that feathers evolved
from scales.
That is right, but I saw a television 'documentary' a couple of years
back
about evolution of feathers, with references to how feathers are grown
in
the embryonic stage. And of course, AFAIK dinosaur fossils with feathers
have been found. Heck, didn't the Solnhofen Archeopteryx show distinct
feathers?
You are absolutely right -- the "feathers are scales" notion is no
longer held. So the good professor might have been simply a decade
or two out of date rather than completely mendacious. It is also true
that when the distinction between scales and feathers became widely
known, it in no way overturned the "birds evolved from reptiles"
notion using the term "reptile' in the old-fashioned sense but
including dinosaurs.
I had the opportunity to hear David Menton speak last fall. He made
the bold claim that all Australopithecines found thus far have had
opposable toes, so there you have it about Dr. Menton.
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