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""Military conscription rests on the assumption that your kids belong
to the state . . . That assumption isn't a new one. The Nazis thought
it was a great idea . . . I oppose registration for the draft . . .
because I believe the security of freedom can best be achieved by
security through freedom. The all-voluntary force is based on the
sound and historic American principle of voluntary commitment to the
defense of freedom . . . The United States of America believes a free
people do not have to be coerced in defending their country or their
values, and that the principle of freedom is the best and only
foundation upon which a defense of freedom can be made. My vision of
a secure America is based on my belief that freedom calls forth the
best in the human spirit, and that the defense of freedom can and will
best be made out of love of country; a love that needs no coercion.
Out of such a love, a real security will develop, because in the final
analysis, the free human heart and spirit are the best and most
reliable defense."
Ronald Reagan
Quoted in, "The Revolution - A Manifesto" by Ron Paul |
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http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9339
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""Military conscription rests on the assumption that your kids belong
to the state . . . That assumption isn't a new one. The Nazis thought
it was a great idea . . . I oppose registration for the draft . . .
because I believe the security of freedom can best be achieved by
security through freedom. The all-voluntary force is based on the
sound and historic American principle of voluntary commitment to the
defense of freedom . . . The United States of America believes a free
people do not have to be coerced in defending their country or their
values, and that the principle of freedom is the best and only
foundation upon which a defense of freedom can be made. My vision of
a secure America is based on my belief that freedom calls forth the
best in the human spirit, and that the defense of freedom can and will
best be made out of love of country; a love that needs no coercion.
Out of such a love, a real security will develop, because in the final
analysis, the free human heart and spirit are the best and most
reliable defense."
Ronald Reagan
Quoted in, "The Revolution - A Manifesto" by Ron Paul
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I believe that we need to put in place a program much like Germany and
other european nations have been using for a very long time with great
sucsess and thats mandatory service for those 18-24 years of age,It
would be 2-3 years and theu could choose the service of their choice
or are best qualified for |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:07 am Post subject: Re: State of Emergency: The US in the Final Six Months of th |
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In <c99e077d-ce60-48b7-94d0-fe93da5cc717@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, on
07/02/2008
at 03:09 PM, charles q <q.charles132@gmail.com> said:
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On Jul 2, 2:55 pm, kenpis...@gmail.com wrote:
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9339
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""Military conscription rests on the assumption that your kids belong
to the state . . . That assumption isn't a new one. The Nazis thought
it was a great idea . . . I oppose registration for the draft . . .
because I believe the security of freedom can best be achieved by
security through freedom. The all-voluntary force is based on the
sound and historic American principle of voluntary commitment to the
defense of freedom . . . The United States of America believes a free
people do not have to be coerced in defending their country or their
values, and that the principle of freedom is the best and only
foundation upon which a defense of freedom can be made. My vision of
a secure America is based on my belief that freedom calls forth the
best in the human spirit, and that the defense of freedom can and will
best be made out of love of country; a love that needs no coercion.
Out of such a love, a real security will develop, because in the final
analysis, the free human heart and spirit are the best and most
reliable defense."
Ronald Reagan
Quoted in, "The Revolution - A Manifesto" by Ron Paul
I believe that we need to put in place a program much like Germany and
other european nations have been using for a very long time with great
sucsess and thats mandatory service for those 18-24 years of age,It would
be 2-3 years and theu could choose the service of their choice or are
best qualified for
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All we need is for the right wingers who want wars made with lies, to get
their own ass into them. That way those who don't want to die for
nothing, don't have to. |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:16 am Post subject: Re: State of Emergency: The US in the Final Six Months of th |
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On Jul 2, 3:09 pm, charles q <q.charles...@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Jul 2, 2:55 pm, kenpis...@gmail.com wrote:
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9339
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""Military conscription rests on the assumption that your kids belong
to the state . . . That assumption isn't a new one. The Nazis thought
it was a great idea . . . I oppose registration for the draft . . .
because I believe the security of freedom can best be achieved by
security through freedom. The all-voluntary force is based on the
sound and historic American principle of voluntary commitment to the
defense of freedom . . . The United States of America believes a free
people do not have to be coerced in defending their country or their
values, and that the principle of freedom is the best and only
foundation upon which a defense of freedom can be made. My vision of
a secure America is based on my belief that freedom calls forth the
best in the human spirit, and that the defense of freedom can and will
best be made out of love of country; a love that needs no coercion.
Out of such a love, a real security will develop, because in the final
analysis, the free human heart and spirit are the best and most
reliable defense."
Ronald Reagan
Quoted in, "The Revolution - A Manifesto" by Ron Paul
I believe that we need to put in place a program much like Germany and
other european nations have been using for a very long time with great
sucsess and thats mandatory service for those 18-24 years of age,It
would be 2-3 years and theu could choose the service of their choice
or are best qualified for- Hide quoted text -
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Mandatory service? Fuck that! That's not freedom! |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:17 am Post subject: Re: State of Emergency: The US in the Final Six Months of th |
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On Jul 2, 4:07 pm, truthtel...@nospam.net wrote:
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In <c99e077d-ce60-48b7-94d0-fe93da5cc...@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, on
07/02/2008
at 03:09 PM, charles q <q.charles...@gmail.com> said:
On Jul 2, 2:55 pm, kenpis...@gmail.com wrote:
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9339
=-
""Military conscription rests on the assumption that your kids belong
to the state . . . That assumption isn't a new one. The Nazis thought
it was a great idea . . . I oppose registration for the draft . . .
because I believe the security of freedom can best be achieved by
security through freedom. The all-voluntary force is based on the
sound and historic American principle of voluntary commitment to the
defense of freedom . . . The United States of America believes a free
people do not have to be coerced in defending their country or their
values, and that the principle of freedom is the best and only
foundation upon which a defense of freedom can be made. My vision of
a secure America is based on my belief that freedom calls forth the
best in the human spirit, and that the defense of freedom can and will
best be made out of love of country; a love that needs no coercion.
Out of such a love, a real security will develop, because in the final
analysis, the free human heart and spirit are the best and most
reliable defense."
Ronald Reagan
Quoted in, "The Revolution - A Manifesto" by Ron Paul
I believe that we need to put in place a program much like Germany and
other european nations have been using for a very long time with great
sucsess and thats mandatory service for those 18-24 years of age,It would
be 2-3 years and theu could choose the service of their choice or are
best qualified for
All we need is for the right wingers who want wars made with lies, to get
their own ass into them. That way those who don't want to die for
nothing, don't have to.- Hide quoted text -
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PUT GEORGE DUMBYA DOUCHE, SHLONG CHENEY, KARL ROVE, RUSH LIMPBALLS,
SHAWN INSANNITY, BILLDO O'REALLY, MICHAEL SAVAGE ALL ON THE FRONT LINE! |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:09 pm Post subject: Re: State of Emergency: The US in the Final Six Months of th |
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In <1a1b008b-a09e-45bc-9a1a-53aaf3c5a10e@u6g2000prc.googlegroups.com>, on
07/02/2008
at 10:17 PM, MACK DADDY <pepsivanilla@msn.com> said:
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On Jul 2, 4:07 pm, truthtel...@nospam.net wrote:
In <c99e077d-ce60-48b7-94d0-fe93da5cc...@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, on
07/02/2008
at 03:09 PM, charles q <q.charles...@gmail.com> said:
On Jul 2, 2:55 pm, kenpis...@gmail.com wrote:
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9339
=-=
""Military conscription rests on the assumption that your kids belong
to the state . . . That assumption isn't a new one. The Nazis thought
it was a great idea . . . I oppose registration for the draft . . .
because I believe the security of freedom can best be achieved by
security through freedom. The all-voluntary force is based on the
sound and historic American principle of voluntary commitment to the
defense of freedom . . . The United States of America believes a free
people do not have to be coerced in defending their country or their
values, and that the principle of freedom is the best and only
foundation upon which a defense of freedom can be made. My vision of
a secure America is based on my belief that freedom calls forth the
best in the human spirit, and that the defense of freedom can and will
best be made out of love of country; a love that needs no coercion.
Out of such a love, a real security will develop, because in the final
analysis, the free human heart and spirit are the best and most
reliable defense."
Ronald Reagan
Quoted in, "The Revolution - A Manifesto" by Ron Paul
I believe that we need to put in place a program much like Germany and
other european nations have been using for a very long time with great
sucsess and thats mandatory service for those 18-24 years of age,It would
be 2-3 years and theu could choose the service of their choice or are
best qualified for
All we need is for the right wingers who want wars made with lies, to get
their own ass into them. That way those who don't want to die for
nothing, don't have to.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
PUT GEORGE DUMBYA DOUCHE, SHLONG CHENEY, KARL ROVE, RUSH LIMPBALLS, SHAWN
INSANNITY, BILLDO O'REALLY, MICHAEL SAVAGE ALL ON THE FRONT LINE!
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We can't. The cowards only want others to die for nothing in their wars. |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 3:31 am Post subject: Re: State of Emergency: The US in the Final Six Months of th |
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On 3 Jul, 12:09, truthtel...@nospam.net wrote:
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PUT GEORGE DUMBYA DOUCHE, SHLONG CHENEY, KARL ROVE, RUSH LIMPBALLS, SHAWN
INSANNITY, BILLDO O'REALLY, MICHAEL SAVAGE ALL ON THE FRONT LINE!
We can't. The cowards only want others to die for nothing in their wars. - Hide quoted text -
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..."die for nothing?" ... What about all that oil and lucrative
government contracts....... War is a licence to print money. |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 3:03 am Post subject: Re: State of Emergency: The US in the Final Six Months of th |
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On Jul 2, 7:07 pm, truthtel...@nospam.net wrote:
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In <c99e077d-ce60-48b7-94d0-fe93da5cc...@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, on
07/02/2008
at 03:09 PM, charles q <q.charles...@gmail.com> said:
On Jul 2, 2:55 pm, kenpis...@gmail.com wrote:
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9339
=-=
""Military conscription rests on the assumption that your kids belong
to the state . . . That assumption isn't a new one. The Nazis thought
it was a great idea . . . I oppose registration for the draft . . .
because I believe the security of freedom can best be achieved by
security through freedom. The all-voluntary force is based on the
sound and historic American principle of voluntary commitment to the
defense of freedom . . . The United States of America believes a free
people do not have to be coerced in defending their country or their
values, and that the principle of freedom is the best and only
foundation upon which a defense of freedom can be made. My vision of
a secure America is based on my belief that freedom calls forth the
best in the human spirit, and that the defense of freedom can and will
best be made out of love of country; a love that needs no coercion.
Out of such a love, a real security will develop, because in the final
analysis, the free human heart and spirit are the best and most
reliable defense."
Ronald Reagan
Quoted in, "The Revolution - A Manifesto" by Ron Paul
I believe that we need to put in place a program much like Germany and
other european nations have been using for a very long time with great
sucsess and thats mandatory service for those 18-24 years of age,It would
be 2-3 years and theu could choose the service of their choice or are
best qualified for
All we need is for the right wingers who want wars made with lies, to get
their own ass into them. That way those who don't want to die for
nothing, don't have to.
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And as the terrorists blow up your house and your family because
you helped destroy
the military, You would be the first one in line screaming "why wasn't
there some there to defend me" |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 6:36 am Post subject: Re: State of Emergency: The US in the Final Six Months of th |
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On Jul 6, 9:26 pm, truthtel...@nospam.net wrote:
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Pzzzzzzzt right winger capri -- there might still be commies in your
closet and under the bed. Look before sleeping...
Rephrased: You dumbass idiots have done nothing but lie yourselves into
another commie hunt. The cold war is over and you need something fear so
you can find safety in the nonsense of your kooks leaders, thus you have
replaced the commies with arab terrorists.
Now get your stupid ass to iraq and die for nothing -- So someone who
doesn't want to die for nothing can come home.
In <b325181b-7a17-40b0-8b15-418a22af3...@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, on
07/06/2008
at 08:03 PM, capri <prh...@gmail.com> said:
On Jul 2, 7:07 pm, truthtel...@nospam.net wrote:
In <c99e077d-ce60-48b7-94d0-fe93da5cc...@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, on
07/02/2008
at 03:09 PM, charles q <q.charles...@gmail.com> said:
On Jul 2, 2:55 pm, kenpis...@gmail.com wrote:
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9339
=-
""Military conscription rests on the assumption that your kids belong
to the state . . . That assumption isn't a new one. The Nazis thought
it was a great idea . . . I oppose registration for the draft . . .
because I believe the security of freedom can best be achieved by
security through freedom. The all-voluntary force is based on the
sound and historic American principle of voluntary commitment to the
defense of freedom . . . The United States of America believes a free
people do not have to be coerced in defending their country or their
values, and that the principle of freedom is the best and only
foundation upon which a defense of freedom can be made. My vision of
a secure America is based on my belief that freedom calls forth the
best in the human spirit, and that the defense of freedom can and will
best be made out of love of country; a love that needs no coercion.
Out of such a love, a real security will develop, because in the final
analysis, the free human heart and spirit are the best and most
reliable defense."
Ronald Reagan
Quoted in, "The Revolution - A Manifesto" by Ron Paul
I believe that we need to put in place a program much like Germany and
other european nations have been using for a very long time with great
sucsess and thats mandatory service for those 18-24 years of age,It would
be 2-3 years and theu could choose the service of their choice or are
best qualified for
All we need is for the right wingers who want wars made with lies, to get
their own ass into them. That way those who don't want to die for
nothing, don't have to.
And as the terrorists blow up your house and your family because you
helped destroy
the military, You would be the first one in line screaming "why wasn't
there some there to defend me"- Hide quoted text -
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Yeah, that's what I keep telling the warmongers. If they like war so
much why aren't they fighting it so someone who doesn't want to die
can come home eh! |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:26 am Post subject: Re: State of Emergency: The US in the Final Six Months of th |
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Pzzzzzzzt right winger capri -- there might still be commies in your
closet and under the bed. Look before sleeping...
Rephrased: You dumbass idiots have done nothing but lie yourselves into
another commie hunt. The cold war is over and you need something fear so
you can find safety in the nonsense of your kooks leaders, thus you have
replaced the commies with arab terrorists.
Now get your stupid ass to iraq and die for nothing -- So someone who
doesn't want to die for nothing can come home.
In <b325181b-7a17-40b0-8b15-418a22af3bc7@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, on
07/06/2008
at 08:03 PM, capri <prh142@gmail.com> said:
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On Jul 2, 7:07 pm, truthtel...@nospam.net wrote:
In <c99e077d-ce60-48b7-94d0-fe93da5cc...@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, on
07/02/2008
at 03:09 PM, charles q <q.charles...@gmail.com> said:
On Jul 2, 2:55 pm, kenpis...@gmail.com wrote:
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9339
=-=
""Military conscription rests on the assumption that your kids belong
to the state . . . That assumption isn't a new one. The Nazis thought
it was a great idea . . . I oppose registration for the draft . . .
because I believe the security of freedom can best be achieved by
security through freedom. The all-voluntary force is based on the
sound and historic American principle of voluntary commitment to the
defense of freedom . . . The United States of America believes a free
people do not have to be coerced in defending their country or their
values, and that the principle of freedom is the best and only
foundation upon which a defense of freedom can be made. My vision of
a secure America is based on my belief that freedom calls forth the
best in the human spirit, and that the defense of freedom can and will
best be made out of love of country; a love that needs no coercion.
Out of such a love, a real security will develop, because in the final
analysis, the free human heart and spirit are the best and most
reliable defense."
Ronald Reagan
Quoted in, "The Revolution - A Manifesto" by Ron Paul
I believe that we need to put in place a program much like Germany and
other european nations have been using for a very long time with great
sucsess and thats mandatory service for those 18-24 years of age,It would
be 2-3 years and theu could choose the service of their choice or are
best qualified for
All we need is for the right wingers who want wars made with lies, to get
their own ass into them. That way those who don't want to die for
nothing, don't have to.
And as the terrorists blow up your house and your family because you
helped destroy
the military, You would be the first one in line screaming "why wasn't
there some there to defend me" |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 5:07 pm Post subject: Re: State of Emergency: The US in the Final Six Months of th |
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"capri" <prh142@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 2, 7:07 pm, truthtel...@nospam.net wrote:
In <c99e077d-ce60-48b7-94d0-fe93da5cc...@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, on
07/02/2008
at 03:09 PM, charles q <q.charles...@gmail.com> said:
On Jul 2, 2:55 pm, kenpis...@gmail.com wrote:
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9339
=-=
""Military conscription rests on the assumption that your kids belong
to the state . . . That assumption isn't a new one. The Nazis thought
it was a great idea . . . I oppose registration for the draft . . .
because I believe the security of freedom can best be achieved by
security through freedom. The all-voluntary force is based on the
sound and historic American principle of voluntary commitment to the
defense of freedom . . . The United States of America believes a free
people do not have to be coerced in defending their country or their
values, and that the principle of freedom is the best and only
foundation upon which a defense of freedom can be made. My vision of
a secure America is based on my belief that freedom calls forth the
best in the human spirit, and that the defense of freedom can and will
best be made out of love of country; a love that needs no coercion.
Out of such a love, a real security will develop, because in the final
analysis, the free human heart and spirit are the best and most
reliable defense."
Ronald Reagan
Quoted in, "The Revolution - A Manifesto" by Ron Paul
I believe that we need to put in place a program much like Germany and
other european nations have been using for a very long time with great
sucsess and thats mandatory service for those 18-24 years of age,It
would
be 2-3 years and theu could choose the service of their choice or are
best qualified for
All we need is for the right wingers who want wars made with lies, to get
their own ass into them. That way those who don't want to die for
nothing, don't have to.
And as the terrorists blow up your house and your family because
you helped destroy
the military, You would be the first one in line screaming "why wasn't
there some there to defend me"
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LMAO, you're assuming incorrectly that you worthless shitheads
could defend a herd of ground hogs, this after 2500 medieval freedom
fighters have been and still
are kicking your ass with nothing but spears and knives, and coca cola cans
loaded with explosives |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:36 pm Post subject: Re: State of Emergency: The US in the Final Six Months of th |
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MACK DADDY wrote:
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Yeah, that's what I keep telling the warmongers. If they like war so
much why aren't they fighting it so someone who doesn't want to die
can come home eh!
There's something to be said for the draft. If the military is made up |
of draftees, it will be far less willing to commit troops to falseflag
wars. As it is now, there are volunteers hoping to build careers out of
endless war.
Gibbon noted that in the day of the republic, the legions were manned by
the sons of the yeoman farmers, who expected to return to the farm and
in time inherit it. They felt they had an investment in the system they
wanted to protect and a say in the laws created to do that.
But then, as the republic became more corrupt, the aristocracy
encouraged immigration to Rome from tribes that lacked strong republican
tranditions, and often could not even speak Latin. The aristocracy
funded the campaigns of demagogues to represent them, pandering to their
ethnicity and religion, and able to say one thing to them in their own
language while saying another to the Romans in Latin.
Moreover, Gibbon noted how the legions came to be manned by volunteers
from the dregs of society with no investment in the system to protect,
wanting only what we now call 'entitlements' from their service. These
troops were led by members of the aristocracy whose forbears had also
been generals and members of the power elite.
Finally, both Gibbon and Machiavelli saw how the aristocracy corrupted
the system to reduce the taxes on the rich and transfer the burden to
the lower and middle classes. Who soon ran out of money. So, what the
governments have always done is borrow the money to run from the rich.
This works until some creditor sees the tax base will no longer service
the debt much less pay it off, and refuses to lend more.
the result is fiscal crisis, rising food prices, then riots because the
lower classes no longer have the money to buy food, and so they havta
call in the military to restore order. The Romans called Caesar.
The Founding Farmers who wrote the US constitution understood all of
this. Gibbon published his first volumne, which deals with the fall of
the Roman republic into tyranny in 1776. It was a smash hit. They all
saw that you can have a republic, or you can have an empire. Pick one. |
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