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Devil's Advocaat
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 Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:16 pm Post subject: Summary of “apobetics” and his Problems with Sci |
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In this posting “apobetics” presents the following statement “Sprirled
(sic) DNA is necessary for life but does not form spontaneously, or
naturally.” which presumably comes from some source material or other
that he chooses not to provide a citation for, then in the next
sentence he speaks of DNA forming in a glass beaker.
Consider the fact that the word naturally means “in accordance with,
or by the operation of, natural laws or causes” and spontaneously
means “by natural chemical or physical change or development” in the
context in which these words are set in his posting.
Similar claims are made in his other postings (under similar headings)
about amino acids, proteins and cell membranes.
So if these essential components of life cannot form spontaneously, or
naturally, what other mechanism or process is supposed to be
responsible for their formation?
Does “apobetics” have such a mechanism or process in mind, or does the
author of his source material know of such a mechanism or process?
And can that mechanism or process be observed, tested and verified? |
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Tim Tyler
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:32 pm Post subject: Re: Summary of “apobetics” and his Problems with |
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Devil's Advocaat wrote:
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In this posting apobetics presents the following statement Sprirled
(sic) DNA is necessary for life but does not form spontaneously, or
naturally. which presumably comes from some source material or other
that he chooses not to provide a citation for [...]
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DNA does not form spontaneously or naturally under pre-biotically
plausible conditions. That is a well known fact - e.g. see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Major_Transitions_in_Evolution
....page.72.
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So if these essential components of life cannot form spontaneously, or
naturally, what other mechanism or process is supposed to be
responsible for their formation?
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They were, in fact, made by other life forms. Nucleic acids are only
essential to *modern* life (LAWKI).
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Ken
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:51 pm Post subject: Re: Summary of “apobetics” and his Problems with |
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On Jul 1, 2:16 pm, "Devil's Advocaat" <mankyg...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
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Does “apobetics” have such a mechanism or process in mind, or does the
author of his source material know of such a mechanism or process?
And can that mechanism or process be observed, tested and verified?
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Yep
He does
"goditit" which also happens to be his answer to anything and
evwerything he can't/won't understand/comprehend |
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Devil's Advocaat
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:21 am Post subject: Re: Summary of “apobetics” and his Problems with |
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On 1 Jul, 22:32, Tim Tyler <seemy...@googlemail.com> wrote:
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Devil's Advocaat wrote:
In this posting apobetics presents the following statement Sprirled
(sic) DNA is necessary for life but does not form spontaneously, or
naturally. which presumably comes from some source material or other
that he chooses not to provide a citation for [...]
DNA does not form spontaneously or naturally under pre-biotically
plausible conditions. That is a well known fact - e.g. see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Major_Transitions_in_Evolution
...page.72.
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The wiki source doesn't stretch to the contents of "page 72" can you
provide that information?
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So if these essential components of life cannot form spontaneously, or
naturally, what other mechanism or process is supposed to be
responsible for their formation?
They were, in fact, made by other life forms. Nucleic acids are only
essential to *modern* life (LAWKI).
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RNA is also comprised of nucleic acids, and as far as scientists are
aware *all* life on this planet has used them in one form or another,
even viruses (which according to some are not alive) contain nucleic
acids in the form of RNA or DNA.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:41 pm Post subject: Re: Summary of “apobetics” and his Problems with |
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On Jul 1, 10:21 pm, "Devil's Advocaat" <mankyg...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
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RNA is also comprised of nucleic acids, and as far as scientists are
aware *all* life on this planet has used them in one form or another,
even viruses (which according to some are not alive) contain nucleic
acids in the form of RNA or DNA.
--
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|im |yler http://timtyler.org/ t...@tt1lock.org
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Please don't confuse Apo with facts |
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Devil's Advocaat
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:26 pm Post subject: Re: Summary of “apobetics” and his Problems with |
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On 2 Jul, 16:41, Ken <flakey...@aol.com> wrote:
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On Jul 1, 10:21 pm, "Devil's Advocaat" <mankyg...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
RNA is also comprised of nucleic acids, and as far as scientists are
aware *all* life on this planet has used them in one form or another,
even viruses (which according to some are not alive) contain nucleic
acids in the form of RNA or DNA.
--
__________
|im |yler http://timtyler.org/ t...@tt1lock.org
Please don't confuse Apo with facts
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Awww! Why not? |
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Ken
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:35 pm Post subject: Re: Summary of “apobetics” and his Problems with |
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On Jul 2, 9:26 am, "Devil's Advocaat" <mankyg...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
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On 2 Jul, 16:41, Ken <flakey...@aol.com> wrote:
On Jul 1, 10:21 pm, "Devil's Advocaat" <mankyg...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
RNA is also comprised of nucleic acids, and as far as scientists are
aware *all* life on this planet has used them in one form or another,
even viruses (which according to some are not alive) contain nucleic
acids in the form of RNA or DNA.
--
__________
|im |yler http://timtyler.org/ t...@tt1lock.org
Please don't confuse Apo with facts
Awww! Why not?
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It might make his empty head explode..
But, on second thought, that would be fun to watch |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:19 am Post subject: Re: Summary of “apobetics” and his Problems with |
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On Jul 2, 9:35 am, Ken <flakey...@aol.com> wrote:
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On Jul 2, 9:26 am, "Devil's Advocaat" <mankyg...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
On 2 Jul, 16:41, Ken <flakey...@aol.com> wrote:
On Jul 1, 10:21 pm, "Devil's Advocaat" <mankyg...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
RNA is also comprised of nucleic acids, and as far as scientists are
aware *all* life on this planet has used them in one form or another,
even viruses (which according to some are not alive) contain nucleic
acids in the form of RNA or DNA.
--
__________
|im |yler http://timtyler.org/ t...@tt1lock.org
Please don't confuse Apo with facts
Awww! Why not?
It might make his empty head explode..
But, on second thought, that would be fun to watch
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I think the chances of his mind allowing any facts to enter is very
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