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apobetics
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 Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:08 pm Post subject: Controversy 4 |
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Controversy 4
Natural Selection & Chance Mutations 2
Point four:
Natural selection is one of the major mechanisms by which evolution
occurs.
Counterpoint:
Natural selection can only remove traits. It cannot and does not add
new traits, such as fur or feet or fins or flippers. Information is
always lost and never gained.
To accomplish the role of hyena to whale (which is what the evolution
religion teaches today) is ridiculous and beyond the realm of
reality. Turning lead into gold would be easier...
Worshppers of evolution have no answers for these shots to the head of
goo to you by way of the zoo...
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TimK
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:13 am Post subject: Re: Controversy 4 |
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"apobetics" <apobetics@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:17e90bf0-2f1f-48bd-a630-fa74690aa42c@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
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Controversy 4
Natural Selection & Chance Mutations 2
Point four:
Natural selection is one of the major mechanisms by which evolution
occurs.
Counterpoint:
Natural selection can only remove traits. It cannot and does not add
new traits, such as fur or feet or fins or flippers. Information is
always lost and never gained.
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You have no fucking idea. |
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Augray
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 2:10 am Post subject: Re: Controversy 4 |
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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:08:57 -0700 (PDT), apobetics
<apobetics@gmail.com> wrote in
<17e90bf0-2f1f-48bd-a630-fa74690aa42c@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> :
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Controversy 4
Natural Selection & Chance Mutations 2
Point four:
Natural selection is one of the major mechanisms by which evolution
occurs.
Counterpoint:
Natural selection can only remove traits. It cannot and does not add
new traits, such as fur or feet or fins or flippers.
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No one ever said otherwise.
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Information is
always lost and never gained.
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What's your definition of "information"?
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To accomplish the role of hyena to whale (which is what the evolution
religion teaches today)
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Wrong. It would really help if you understood the idea that you're
trying to critique.
[snip the rest] |
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Sam Buckland
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 2:24 am Post subject: Re: Controversy 4 |
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apobetics wrote:
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Controversy 4
Natural Selection & Chance Mutations 2
Point four:
Natural selection is one of the major mechanisms by which evolution
occurs.
Counterpoint:
Natural selection can only remove traits. It cannot and does not add
new traits, such as fur or feet or fins or flippers. Information is
always lost and never gained.
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Why do you idiots keep REPEATING this crock??
LOL!! |
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Sam Buckland
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 2:25 am Post subject: Re: Controversy 4 |
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apobetics wrote:
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Controversy 4
Natural Selection & Chance Mutations 2
Point four:
Natural selection is one of the major mechanisms by which evolution
occurs.
Counterpoint:
Natural selection can only remove traits. It cannot and does not add
new traits, such as fur or feet or fins or flippers. Information is
always lost and never gained.
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Why do you idiots keep REPEATING this crock??
LOL!! |
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Cory Albrecht
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:32 am Post subject: Re: Controversy 4 |
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apobetics wrote:
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Controversy 4
Natural Selection & Chance Mutations 2
Point four:
Natural selection is one of the major mechanisms by which evolution
occurs.
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True so far...
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Counterpoint:
Natural selection can only remove traits. It cannot and does not add
new traits, such as fur or feet or fins or flippers. Information is
always lost and never gained.
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Oh? And upon what do you base this? First off, show how "information"
has any meaningful relation to DNA. Second, show how mutations create
only a "loss" in that information.
BTW, you need to show how all kinds of mutations are losses including
single base swaps (i.e. *-adenine-adenine-adenine-* ->
*-adenine-adenine-cytosine-*) to segment reversals
(*-adenine-adenine-cytosine-* -> *-cytosine-adenine-adenine-*), segment
reduplications (adenine-adenine-cytosine ->
adenine-adenine-cytosine-adenine-adenine-cytosine) and full-on
polyploidization (i.e. diploid organism producing teraploid offspring,
doubling the number of chromosomes).
Please cite all your evidence. Mere assertions, like the one above do
not count.
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To accomplish the role of hyena to whale (which is what the evolution
religion teaches today) is ridiculous and beyond the realm of
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Liar. No palaeontologist says that hyaenas evolved into whales.
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reality. Turning lead into gold would be easier...
Worshppers of evolution have no answers for these shots to the head of
goo to you by way of the zoo...
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Probably because you haven't actually raised any questions. |
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