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 Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 3:59 pm Post subject: Controversy 3 |
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Controversy 3
Natural Selection & Chance Mutations
Point:
A series of chance mutations in DNA is one of the major mechanisms by
which we BELIEVE evolution occurs.
Counterpoint:
The statistical odds of chance mutations causing an animal to develop
new body part are astronomically high. The odds of an land animal
becoming a whale are impossible.
Neither of these two claims can be considered as possible or even
probable and are of the nature of fairy tales where the kissed frog
becomes a prince.
6/24/6000 |
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Ken
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| Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:31 pm Post subject: Re: Even more of Apo's endless stream of BULLCRAP.... Part w |
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squealpiggy
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| Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 7:17 pm Post subject: Re: Controversy 3 |
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On Jun 28, 11:59 am, apobetics <apobet...@gmail.com> wrote:
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Controversy 3
Natural Selection & Chance Mutations
Point:
A series of chance mutations in DNA is one of the major mechanisms by
which we BELIEVE evolution occurs.
Counterpoint:
The statistical odds of chance mutations causing an animal to develop
new body part are astronomically high. The odds of an land animal
becoming a whale are impossible.
Neither of these two claims can be considered as possible or even
probable and are of the nature of fairy tales where the kissed frog
becomes a prince.
6/24/6000
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Interesting choice of words. "astronomical". That's really quite
small if you are a bible literalist. The sun orbits the earth, the
stars are mere dots.... |
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Devil's Advocaat
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| Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 1:36 pm Post subject: Re: Controversy 3 |
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On 28 Jun, 16:59, apobetics <apobet...@gmail.com> wrote:
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Controversy 3
Natural Selection & Chance Mutations
Point:
A series of chance mutations in DNA is one of the major mechanisms by
which we BELIEVE evolution occurs.
Counterpoint:
The statistical odds of chance mutations causing an animal to develop
new body part are astronomically high. The odds of an land animal
becoming a whale are impossible.
Neither of these two claims can be considered as possible or even
probable and are of the nature of fairy tales where the kissed frog
becomes a prince.
6/24/6000
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Just out of curiousity, where do you get this stuff from, citations
would be a great help in justifying any statements such as these.
Do you have any or do you just make it up as you go along? |
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harry k
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| Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 2:19 pm Post subject: Re: Controversy 3 |
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On Jun 28, 8:59 am, apobetics <apobet...@gmail.com> wrote:
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Controversy 3
Natural Selection & Chance Mutations
Point:
A series of chance mutations in DNA is one of the major mechanisms by
which we BELIEVE evolution occurs.
Counterpoint:
The statistical odds of chance mutations causing an animal to develop
new body part are astronomically high. The odds of an land animal
becoming a whale are impossible.
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BTW could you please point to the "new body part" that a whale has
that its land antecedent didn't?
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Cory Albrecht
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:40 am Post subject: Re: Controversy 3 |
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Devil's Advocaat wrote:
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On 28 Jun, 16:59, apobetics <apobet...@gmail.com> wrote:
Controversy 3
Natural Selection & Chance Mutations
Point:
A series of chance mutations in DNA is one of the major mechanisms by
which we BELIEVE evolution occurs.
Counterpoint:
The statistical odds of chance mutations causing an animal to develop
new body part are astronomically high. The odds of an land animal
becoming a whale are impossible.
Neither of these two claims can be considered as possible or even
probable and are of the nature of fairy tales where the kissed frog
becomes a prince.
6/24/6000
Just out of curiousity, where do you get this stuff from, citations
would be a great help in justifying any statements such as these.
Do you have any or do you just make it up as you go along?
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Apobetics isn't that bright enough to make it all up himself. He's a fan
of that old technique called copypasta. Any "argument" he makes has
already been debunked a million times before you and I ever showed up
here, and that's just by 1890. |
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Cory Albrecht
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:28 am Post subject: Re: Controversy 3 |
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harry k wrote:
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On Jun 28, 8:59 am, apobetics <apobet...@gmail.com> wrote:
Controversy 3
Natural Selection & Chance Mutations
Point:
A series of chance mutations in DNA is one of the major mechanisms by
which we BELIEVE evolution occurs.
Counterpoint:
The statistical odds of chance mutations causing an animal to develop
new body part are astronomically high. The odds of an land animal
becoming a whale are impossible.
snip
BTW could you please point to the "new body part" that a whale has
that its land antecedent didn't?
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He's probably babbling about the ball vertebra just anterior of where
the fluke is on modern cetaceans.
In his screed against whale evolution a while back where he faked quotes
of Dr. Philip Gingerich saying that Rodhocetus had a tail, Apobetics was
babbling on about Rodhocetus having no ball vertebra. |
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bob
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:01 pm Post subject: Re: Controversy 3 |
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On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 08:59:06 -0700, apobetics wrote:
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Controversy 3
Natural Selection & Chance Mutations
Point:
A series of chance mutations in DNA is one of the major mechanisms by
which we BELIEVE evolution occurs.
Counterpoint:
The statistical odds of chance mutations causing an animal to develop
new body part are astronomically high. The odds of an land animal
becoming a whale are impossible.
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Why, because you say so? |
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Sam Buckland
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:22 pm Post subject: Re: Controversy 3 |
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bob wrote:
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On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 08:59:06 -0700, apobetics wrote:
Controversy 3
Natural Selection & Chance Mutations
Point:
A series of chance mutations in DNA is one of the major mechanisms by
which we BELIEVE evolution occurs.
Counterpoint:
The statistical odds of chance mutations causing an animal to develop
new body part are astronomically high. The odds of an land animal
becoming a whale are impossible.
Why, because you say so?
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That's been the sum total of the "reasoning" behind ALL
his "controversies", so far... |
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Cory Albrecht
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:05 pm Post subject: Re: Controversy 3 |
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Cory Albrecht wrote:
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harry k wrote:
On Jun 28, 8:59 am, apobetics <apobet...@gmail.com> wrote:
Controversy 3
Natural Selection & Chance Mutations
Point:
A series of chance mutations in DNA is one of the major mechanisms by
which we BELIEVE evolution occurs.
Counterpoint:
The statistical odds of chance mutations causing an animal to develop
new body part are astronomically high. The odds of an land animal
becoming a whale are impossible.
snip
BTW could you please point to the "new body part" that a whale has
that its land antecedent didn't?
He's probably babbling about the ball vertebra just anterior of where
the fluke is on modern cetaceans.
In his screed against whale evolution a while back where he faked quotes
of Dr. Philip Gingerich saying that Rodhocetus had a tail, Apobetics was
babbling on about Rodhocetus having no ball vertebra.
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Oops! my bad, that should be "...saying that Rodhocetus had a fluke".
Apologies. |
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