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"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
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| On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:03:42 -0000 Geoff Lane
| <zzassgl@buffy.sighup.org.uk> carved the following into the hard stone
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| >How did animals like the North American Black Bear find their way to the
ark?
| >It would have been a difficult trip involving at least one ocean
crossing.
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| Forget the Black Bear, I want to know how the freaking banana slugs
| made there and back!
%%%% On the black bear.
"It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no
God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson
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| Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
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| "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
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| stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:47 am Post subject: Re: If Scientists Can Be Believed... |
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Douglas Berry wrote:
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On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:03:42 -0000 Geoff Lane
zzassgl@buffy.sighup.org.uk> carved the following into the hard stone
of alt.atheism
How did animals like the North American Black Bear find their way to
the ark? It would have been a difficult trip involving at least one
ocean crossing.
Forget the Black Bear, I want to know how the freaking banana slugs
made there and back!
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They don't breath so they don't count. All they had to do was survive in the
salt wa...
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:55 am Post subject: Re: If Scientists Can Be Believed... |
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On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 20:31:52 -0500, "David Moffitt"
<dmoffitt@stomping-leftist-twits.org> wrote:
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"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:ratt54tuomv6kl4r1nchpjfqda7k1pk7ik@4ax.com...
| On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:03:42 -0000 Geoff Lane
| <zzassgl@buffy.sighup.org.uk> carved the following into the hard stone
| of alt.atheism
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| >How did animals like the North American Black Bear find their way to the
ark?
| >It would have been a difficult trip involving at least one ocean
crossing.
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| Forget the Black Bear, I want to know how the freaking banana slugs
| made there and back!
%%%% On the black bear.
"It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no
God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson
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What does Jefferson's statement on religous tolerance for the
government have to do with your lack of thought on the complete
impossibility of the reality of collecting two of all animals on
earth? |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:01 am Post subject: Re: If Scientists Can Be Believed... |
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Douglas Berry wrote:
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On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:03:42 -0000 Geoff Lane
zzassgl@buffy.sighup.org.uk> carved the following into the hard stone
of alt.atheism
How did animals like the North American Black Bear find their way to the ark?
It would have been a difficult trip involving at least one ocean crossing.
Forget the Black Bear, I want to know how the freaking banana slugs
made there and back!
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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I've got a list a mile long of things that are impossible about that
story ..... but just to list two that have always intrigued me ........
How did the various 'types' of cactus survive under water for that long
? ........ and how did the Koalas ( or ANY Australian marsupial for
that matter ) get on the Ark ? Even granted that they somehow got on the
Ark, Koalas can only survive on a few types of FRESH Eucalyptus Leaves,
they won't eat them if they are not FRESH ........ so how did Noah pull
that one off ?
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MA ....Yoiks .... and away .....
Only two things are infinite, the Universe and human stupidity
.............. and I'm not sure about the Universe ..........
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:01 am Post subject: Re: If Scientists Can Be Believed... |
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Masked Avenger wrote:
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I've got a list a mile long of things that are impossible about that
story ..... but just to list two that have always intrigued me ........
How did the various 'types' of cactus survive under water for that long
? ........ and how did the Koalas ( or ANY Australian marsupial for
that matter ) get on the Ark ? Even granted that they somehow got on the
Ark, Koalas can only survive on a few types of FRESH Eucalyptus Leaves,
they won't eat them if they are not FRESH ........ so how did Noah pull
that one off ?
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:42 pm Post subject: Re: If Scientists Can Be Believed... |
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On Jun 21, 1:29 pm, Larry Huntley <ljhuntle...@SPAMcomcast.net> wrote:
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SteveL <steve...@deletethisbitntlworld.com> stepped up to the podium,
tapped the aging SM57 and announced innews:etOdndq6R78A3cDVRVnyuQA@giganews.com:
On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 11:38:01 -0400, American Thinker
american.thin...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
If Scientists Can Be Believed...
The Earth circles the Sun
It doesn't ?
"American Thinker"'s bible doesn't say so, therefore it can't.
Another fact that may surprise you is that rabbits chew their cud.
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Actually, they don't. "Cud" is regurgitated matter that is forced
back into the mouth from a ruminant's first stomach, which serves as a
fermentation chamber that breaks down fibrous food so that the
nutrients can be extracted.
In the rabbit (an animal that nicely refutes any kind of "intelligent"
design), the fermentation chamber is at the end of the gut, making the
possibility of regurgitation of food from the fermentation chamber
impossible. The unfortunate rabbit must re-ingest its own feces in
order to benefit from the food's stay in the fermentation chamber.
Rabbits chew, but what they are chewing is *not* cud.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
BAAWA Knight
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
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| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 3:52 am Post subject: Re: If Scientists Can Be Believed... |
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"Masked Avenger" <cootey_59@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I've got a list a mile long of things that are impossible about that story
..... but just to list two that have always intrigued me ........
How did the various 'types' of cactus survive under water for that long ?
........ and how did the Koalas ( or ANY Australian marsupial for that
matter ) get on the Ark ? Even granted that they somehow got on the Ark,
Koalas can only survive on a few types of FRESH Eucalyptus Leaves, they
won't eat them if they are not FRESH ........ so how did Noah pull that
one off ?
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Have you ever taken a closer look at the weird and wonderful antipodean
wildlife? It's so strange that the best explanation is that God simply
forgot to flood Downunder .... |
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Wombat
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| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 6:29 am Post subject: Re: If Scientists Can Be Believed... |
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On 24 Jun, 03:59, Larry Huntley <ljhuntle...@SPAMcomcast.net> wrote:
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SkyEyes <skyey...@cox.net> stepped up to the podium, tapped the aging
SM57 and announced innews:581df5c4-de86-4077-97f4-42704a09fd37@w8g2000prd.googlegroups.com:
On Jun 21, 1:29 pm, Larry Huntley <ljhuntle...@SPAMcomcast.net> wrote:
SteveL <steve...@deletethisbitntlworld.com> stepped up to the podium,
tapped the aging SM57 and announced
innews:etOdndq6R78A3cDVRVnyuQA@gigane
ws.com:
On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 11:38:01 -0400, American Thinker
american.thin...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
If Scientists Can Be Believed...
The Earth circles the Sun
It doesn't ?
"American Thinker"'s bible doesn't say so, therefore it can't.
Another fact that may surprise you is that rabbits chew their cud.
Actually, they don't. "Cud" is regurgitated matter that is forced
back into the mouth from a ruminant's first stomach, which serves as a
fermentation chamber that breaks down fibrous food so that the
nutrients can be extracted.
In the rabbit (an animal that nicely refutes any kind of "intelligent"
design), the fermentation chamber is at the end of the gut, making the
possibility of regurgitation of food from the fermentation chamber
impossible. The unfortunate rabbit must re-ingest its own feces in
order to benefit from the food's stay in the fermentation chamber.
Rabbits chew, but what they are chewing is *not* cud.
But ...
Leviticus 11:5
And the coney, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof;
he is unclean unto you.
Leviticus 11:6
And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof;
he is unclean unto you.
Are we not to believe, like American Thinker, that everything in the
Bible is the literal truth?
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I see, when reality and the bible conflict, reality is wrong?
Wombat
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Wombat
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| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 6:33 am Post subject: Re: If Scientists Can Be Believed... |
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On 24 Jun, 03:53, Gregory A Greenman <s...@sig.below> wrote:
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In article <581df5c4-de86-4077-97f4-42704a09fd37
@w8g2000prd.googlegroups.com>, SkyEyes <skyey...@cox.net
declared...
On Jun 21, 1:29=A0pm, Larry Huntley <ljhuntle...@SPAMcomcast.net> wrote:
SteveL <steve...@deletethisbitntlworld.com> stepped up to the podium,
tapped the aging SM57 and announced innews:etOdndq6R78A3cDVRVnyuQA@gigane> > ws.com:
On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 11:38:01 -0400, American Thinker
american.thin...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
If Scientists Can Be Believed...
The Earth circles the Sun
It doesn't ?
"American Thinker"'s bible doesn't say so, therefore it can't. =A0
Another fact that may surprise you is that rabbits chew their cud.
(Actually, I'm thinking the above remarks were meant to be
sarcastic.)
Actually, they don't. "Cud" is regurgitated matter that is forced
back into the mouth from a ruminant's first stomach, which serves as a
fermentation chamber that breaks down fibrous food so that the
nutrients can be extracted.
In the rabbit (an animal that nicely refutes any kind of "intelligent"
design), the fermentation chamber is at the end of the gut, making the
possibility of regurgitation of food from the fermentation chamber
impossible. The unfortunate rabbit must re-ingest its own feces in
order to benefit from the food's stay in the fermentation chamber.
Rabbits chew, but what they are chewing is *not* cud.
The pellets that rabbits reingest are swallowed whole. Thus, the
christian claim that rabbits chew their cud is based on a
mannerism that involves neither cud nor chewing.
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It isn't per se a Christian claim. Ask a Jewish person how much
credence should be put on that verse. The number of Christians who
regard the Bible as inerrant are very much in the minority.
Wombat
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Gregory A Greenman
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| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 6:53 am Post subject: Re: If Scientists Can Be Believed... |
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In article <581df5c4-de86-4077-97f4-42704a09fd37
@w8g2000prd.googlegroups.com>, SkyEyes <skyeyes9@cox.net>
declared...
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On Jun 21, 1:29=A0pm, Larry Huntley <ljhuntle...@SPAMcomcast.net> wrote:
SteveL <steve...@deletethisbitntlworld.com> stepped up to the podium,
tapped the aging SM57 and announced innews:etOdndq6R78A3cDVRVnyuQA@gigane=
ws.com:
On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 11:38:01 -0400, American Thinker
american.thin...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
If Scientists Can Be Believed...
The Earth circles the Sun
It doesn't ?
"American Thinker"'s bible doesn't say so, therefore it can't. =A0
Another fact that may surprise you is that rabbits chew their cud.
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(Actually, I'm thinking the above remarks were meant to be
sarcastic.)
| Quote: |
Actually, they don't. "Cud" is regurgitated matter that is forced
back into the mouth from a ruminant's first stomach, which serves as a
fermentation chamber that breaks down fibrous food so that the
nutrients can be extracted.
In the rabbit (an animal that nicely refutes any kind of "intelligent"
design), the fermentation chamber is at the end of the gut, making the
possibility of regurgitation of food from the fermentation chamber
impossible. The unfortunate rabbit must re-ingest its own feces in
order to benefit from the food's stay in the fermentation chamber.
Rabbits chew, but what they are chewing is *not* cud.
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The pellets that rabbits reingest are swallowed whole. Thus, the
christian claim that rabbits chew their cud is based on a
mannerism that involves neither cud nor chewing.
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Greg
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http://www.spencerbooksellers.com
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Larry Huntley
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| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 6:59 am Post subject: Re: If Scientists Can Be Believed... |
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SkyEyes <skyeyes9@cox.net> stepped up to the podium, tapped the aging
SM57 and announced in
news:581df5c4-de86-4077-97f4-42704a09fd37@w8g2000prd.googlegroups.com:
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On Jun 21, 1:29 pm, Larry Huntley <ljhuntle...@SPAMcomcast.net> wrote:
SteveL <steve...@deletethisbitntlworld.com> stepped up to the podium,
tapped the aging SM57 and announced
innews:etOdndq6R78A3cDVRVnyuQA@gigane
ws.com:
On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 11:38:01 -0400, American Thinker
american.thin...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
If Scientists Can Be Believed...
The Earth circles the Sun
It doesn't ?
"American Thinker"'s bible doesn't say so, therefore it can't.
Another fact that may surprise you is that rabbits chew their cud.
Actually, they don't. "Cud" is regurgitated matter that is forced
back into the mouth from a ruminant's first stomach, which serves as a
fermentation chamber that breaks down fibrous food so that the
nutrients can be extracted.
In the rabbit (an animal that nicely refutes any kind of "intelligent"
design), the fermentation chamber is at the end of the gut, making the
possibility of regurgitation of food from the fermentation chamber
impossible. The unfortunate rabbit must re-ingest its own feces in
order to benefit from the food's stay in the fermentation chamber.
Rabbits chew, but what they are chewing is *not* cud.
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But ...
Leviticus 11:5
And the coney, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof;
he is unclean unto you.
Leviticus 11:6
And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof;
he is unclean unto you.
Are we not to believe, like American Thinker, that everything in the
Bible is the literal truth?
- L
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Larry Huntley Beaverton, Oregon
Skep-Ti-Cult® Member #130-978649-969 http://www.skepticult.org/
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| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 7:59 am Post subject: Re: If Scientists Can Be Believed... |
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On Jun 22, 9:49 am, Sonnova <sonn...@audiosanatorium.com> wrote:
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On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 16:14:31 -0700, Greywolf wrote
(in article <2M2dnRBI_5EIFsDVnZ2dnUVZ_gWdn...@supernews.com>):
"Sonnova" <sonn...@audiosanatorium.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 08:48:49 -0700, Rod's SHAW wrote
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"American Thinker" <american.thin...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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The Earth circles the Sun and we came from some kind of primordial soup
by
accident.
Notice how they don't waste any time on determining if the ark was
equipped
with sails or a 2 stroke outboard
Much less how a ship only 600 ft long could hold enough food for each
species
for that long of a voyage or how a single extended family could care for
them.
Well the two (or seven) of each species were wittle wittie babies (and
therefore had to be hand carried on to the ark), the 'voyage' went faster
than everyone thought <wink, wink>, and the animals and insects were
provided Jesus-God's 'love' in addition to the pampering provided by Noah
and his peeps, don't you know.
The bible doesn't mention it but Noah and the rest of his family were
provided with gold plated clothespins hand-made by angels to put on their
noses to help keep the stench of the various varieties of 'poop' (Aramaic)
and 'crap' (Hebrew) smelling up the ark to a tolerable level.
Hope that clears up the 'mysteries'.
Greywolf
Well it does, but how many of each were there, 7 or 2? Aren't the many and
varied contradictions of the Bible wonderful? And yet these Christian
fundamentalists say that EVERY WORD in the Bible is not only true, but
literally the revealed Word of God! And they wonder why there are atheists!
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Were all the animals/insects gathered by the god?
Otherwise, where do you find the time to gather them, especially when
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| Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:13 am Post subject: Re: If Scientists Can Be Believed... |
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On 25 Jun, 06:05, Larry Huntley <ljhuntle...@SPAMcomcast.net> wrote:
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Wombat <tri...@multiweb.nl> stepped up to the podium, tapped the aging
SM57 and announced innews:8863f8b7-4d6c-4387-8ee4-d60f87015712@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com:
On 24 Jun, 03:59, Larry Huntley <ljhuntle...@SPAMcomcast.net> wrote:
Are we not to believe, like American Thinker, that everything in the
Bible is the literal truth?
I see, when reality and the bible conflict, reality is wrong?
I apologize. My attempt at tongue-in-cheek humor has gone horribly
wrong. I'll just back out now ...
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Sorry about that. Perhaps a <grin> added next time?
My sharp response was because a few years ago when I asked a Moslim
convert what happens when her holy book and reality conflict, she
replied that they never do!
Wombat
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- L
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Skep-Ti-Cult® Member #130-978649-969 http://www.skepticult.org/
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Would you like me to yank your internet account now or later?
(I chose "now", but am still posting from the same account.)
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| Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 9:05 am Post subject: Re: If Scientists Can Be Believed... |
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Wombat <trigby@multiweb.nl> stepped up to the podium, tapped the aging
SM57 and announced in
news:8863f8b7-4d6c-4387-8ee4-d60f87015712@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com:
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On 24 Jun, 03:59, Larry Huntley <ljhuntle...@SPAMcomcast.net> wrote:
Are we not to believe, like American Thinker, that everything in the
Bible is the literal truth?
I see, when reality and the bible conflict, reality is wrong?
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I apologize. My attempt at tongue-in-cheek humor has gone horribly
wrong. I'll just back out now ...
- L
--
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Skep-Ti-Cult® Member #130-978649-969 http://www.skepticult.org/
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On Jun 21, 11:48 am, "Rod's SHAW" <rod.g...@shaw.ca> wrote:
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"American Thinker" <american.thin...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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The Earth circles the Sun and we came from some kind of primordial soup by
accident.
Notice how they don't waste any time on determining if the ark was equipped
with sails or a 2 stroke outboard
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Do they realize how big the ark would have to be to have two of each
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