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Sonnova
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:03 am    Post subject: Re: If Scientists Can Be Believed... Reply with quote

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 11:14:52 -0700, Michelle Malkin wrote
(in article <qNWdnZUyNreH2MDVnZ2dnUVZ_tTinZ2d@comcast.com>):

Quote:



"American Thinker" <american.thinker@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.22c6ea64ff8bfbc198ac26@news.individual.net...
The Earth circles the Sun and we came from some kind of primordial soup by
accident.

There is good reason to be skeptical of global warming.

Why? Nothing you wrote above connects.



Actually, what I think he's trying to say in his own inimitable and mostly
illiterate style is that if scientists are wrong about creation, then they
are also likely to be wrong about global warming.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:33 am    Post subject: Re: If Scientists Can Be Believed... Reply with quote

"Timothy 1:4a" <canfanorama@gmail.com> wrote in
news:fd0b924d-adea-4b67-8290-f44a82995468@b1g2000hsg.googlegrou
ps.com:

Quote:
On Jun 21, 2:05 pm, Patriot Game <Patriot43...@America.Com
wrote:
SteveL <steve...@deletethisbitntlworld.com> wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 11:38:01 -0400, American Thinker
american.thin...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

If Scientists Can Be Believed...
The Earth circles the Sun

It doesn't ?

Like global warming, the theory is subject to much heated
debate.

Like the theory that babies come from inside their mommies'
bodies. The kids in the nursery school around the corner
just cannot agree on this. If only the scientific evidence
were conclusive! But I guess we will never know.

-------

One thing is for sure. Scientists agree more on the possibility
of Earth being decimated by a big rock headed our way than it
does the possibility that humans are able to affect climate to
such a calamitous degree.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 4:14 am    Post subject: Re: If Scientists Can Be Believed... Reply with quote

"Sonnova" <sonnova@audiosanatorium.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.C482B8F300104035F01846D8@news.comcast.net...
Quote:
On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 08:48:49 -0700, Rod's SHAW wrote
(in article <Bp97k.18277$kx.17875@pd7urf3no>):


"American Thinker" <american.thinker@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.22c6ea64ff8bfbc198ac26@news.individual.net...
The Earth circles the Sun and we came from some kind of primordial soup
by
accident.

Notice how they don't waste any time on determining if the ark was
equipped
with sails or a 2 stroke outboard

Much less how a ship only 600 ft long could hold enough food for each
species
for that long of a voyage or how a single extended family could care for
them.


Well the two (or seven) of each species were wittle wittie babies (and
therefore had to be hand carried on to the ark), the 'voyage' went faster
than everyone thought <wink, wink>, and the animals and insects were
provided Jesus-God's 'love' in addition to the pampering provided by Noah
and his peeps, don't you know.

The bible doesn't mention it but Noah and the rest of his family were
provided with gold plated clothespins hand-made by angels to put on their
noses to help keep the stench of the various varieties of 'poop' (Aramaic)
and 'crap' (Hebrew) smelling up the ark to a tolerable level.

Hope that clears up the 'mysteries'.

Greywolf
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 5:07 am    Post subject: Re: If Scientists Can Be Believed... Reply with quote

"Sonnova" <sonnova@audiosanatorium.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.C482B8F300104035F01846D8@news.comcast.net...
Quote:
On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 08:48:49 -0700, Rod's SHAW wrote
(in article <Bp97k.18277$kx.17875@pd7urf3no>):


"American Thinker" <american.thinker@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.22c6ea64ff8bfbc198ac26@news.individual.net...
The Earth circles the Sun and we came from some kind of primordial soup
by
accident.

Notice how they don't waste any time on determining if the ark was
equipped
with sails or a 2 stroke outboard

Much less how a ship only 600 ft long could hold enough food for each
species
for that long of a voyage or how a single extended family could care for
them.


600 feet?
Have they finally figured out the exact dimension of a cubit?
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z
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 6:08 am    Post subject: Re: If Scientists Can Be Believed... Reply with quote

American Thinker <american.thinker@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:MPG.22c6ea64ff8bfbc198ac26@news.individual.net:

Quote:
The Earth circles the Sun and we came from some kind of primordial
soup by accident.

There is good reason to be skeptical of global warming.

You should always be sceptical. Primordial soup or big invisible beard guy
-- no reason to believe any of it on faith alone.
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Sonnova
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 6:49 am    Post subject: Re: If Scientists Can Be Believed... Reply with quote

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 16:14:31 -0700, Greywolf wrote
(in article <2M2dnRBI_5EIFsDVnZ2dnUVZ_gWdnZ2d@supernews.com>):

Quote:

"Sonnova" <sonnova@audiosanatorium.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.C482B8F300104035F01846D8@news.comcast.net...
On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 08:48:49 -0700, Rod's SHAW wrote
(in article <Bp97k.18277$kx.17875@pd7urf3no>):


"American Thinker" <american.thinker@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.22c6ea64ff8bfbc198ac26@news.individual.net...
The Earth circles the Sun and we came from some kind of primordial soup
by
accident.

Notice how they don't waste any time on determining if the ark was
equipped
with sails or a 2 stroke outboard

Much less how a ship only 600 ft long could hold enough food for each
species
for that long of a voyage or how a single extended family could care for
them.


Well the two (or seven) of each species were wittle wittie babies (and
therefore had to be hand carried on to the ark), the 'voyage' went faster
than everyone thought <wink, wink>, and the animals and insects were
provided Jesus-God's 'love' in addition to the pampering provided by Noah
and his peeps, don't you know.

The bible doesn't mention it but Noah and the rest of his family were
provided with gold plated clothespins hand-made by angels to put on their
noses to help keep the stench of the various varieties of 'poop' (Aramaic)
and 'crap' (Hebrew) smelling up the ark to a tolerable level.

Hope that clears up the 'mysteries'.

Greywolf




Well it does, but how many of each were there, 7 or 2? Aren't the many and
varied contradictions of the Bible wonderful? And yet these Christian
fundamentalists say that EVERY WORD in the Bible is not only true, but
literally the revealed Word of God! And they wonder why there are atheists!
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Sonnova
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 6:51 am    Post subject: Re: If Scientists Can Be Believed... Reply with quote

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 17:07:42 -0700, Alex W. wrote
(in article <6c5ji7F3et8sfU1@mid.individual.net>):

Quote:

"Sonnova" <sonnova@audiosanatorium.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.C482B8F300104035F01846D8@news.comcast.net...
On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 08:48:49 -0700, Rod's SHAW wrote
(in article <Bp97k.18277$kx.17875@pd7urf3no>):


"American Thinker" <american.thinker@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.22c6ea64ff8bfbc198ac26@news.individual.net...
The Earth circles the Sun and we came from some kind of primordial soup
by
accident.

Notice how they don't waste any time on determining if the ark was
equipped
with sails or a 2 stroke outboard

Much less how a ship only 600 ft long could hold enough food for each
species
for that long of a voyage or how a single extended family could care for
them.


600 feet?
Have they finally figured out the exact dimension of a cubit?


An approximation, at best. And what the hell is gopher wood? Was that an

order given by Noah to his sons? "Boys, gopher wood and don't come back
without it!"
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chibiabos
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:12 am    Post subject: Re: If Scientists Can Be Believed... Reply with quote

In article <MPG.22c6ea64ff8bfbc198ac26@news.individual.net>, American
Thinker <american.thinker@bellsouth.net> wrote:

Quote:
The Earth circles the Sun and we came from some kind of primordial soup by
accident.

There is good reason to be skeptical of global warming.

If this is what passes for American thinking, we're all in deep shit.

-chib

--
Member of S.M.A.S.H.
Sarcastic Middle-aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
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johac
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:12 am    Post subject: Re: If Scientists Can Be Believed... Reply with quote

In article <MPG.22c6ea64ff8bfbc198ac26@news.individual.net>,
American Thinker <american.thinker@bellsouth.net> wrote:

Quote:
The Earth circles the Sun and we came from some kind of primordial soup by
accident.

There is good reason to be skeptical of global warming.

Do you think that the Earth doesn't orbit the Sun? If you are that
ignorant of basic astronomy, why should I give credence to anything else
you say?
--
John #1782
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:03 pm    Post subject: Re: If Scientists Can Be Believed... Reply with quote

Devil's Advocaat <mankygoat@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Quote:
On 22 Jun, 15:11, Sam Buckland <noth...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Eyeball Kid wrote:
And the carnivores.. oh, shit. The carnivores would have to eat
something, yes? and what would that be over the course of 40 days and
nights? Why, they'd have to eat some of those "pairs" of animals, which
would mean that they'd be eating the species that crazy-guy Noah would
have so dutifully gotten on board.

No WONDER all the dinosaurs, unicorns and gryphons are gone...

And all those poor little satirists too, what a shame. Razz

From a very young age I've wondered, the bible says, "And of every living
thing of all flesh, two of every [sort] shalt thou bring into the ark, to
keep [them] alive with thee; they shall be male and female. Of fowls
after their kind, and of cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing of
the earth after his kind, two of every [sort] shall come unto thee, to keep
[them] alive."

Now, this excludes fish but does it include penguins? It excludes all plant
life (apart from that that may have been carried as food and fodder) so what
did all the herbivores live on after the waters disappeared?

How did animals like the North American Black Bear find their way to the ark?
It would have been a difficult trip involving at least one ocean crossing.

It's always tricky looking too hard at fairy tales.

--
Isaac Asimov: Properly read, the Bible is the most potent
force for atheism ever conceived.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:06 pm    Post subject: Re: If Scientists Can Be Believed... Reply with quote

"Geoff Lane" <zzassgl@buffy.sighup.org.uk> wrote in message
news:un92j5-imq.ln1@buffy.sighup.org.uk...
| Devil's Advocaat <mankygoat@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
| > On 22 Jun, 15:11, Sam Buckland <noth...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
| >> Eyeball Kid wrote:
| >> > And the carnivores.. oh, shit. The carnivores would have to eat
| >> > something, yes? and what would that be over the course of 40 days and
| >> > nights? Why, they'd have to eat some of those "pairs" of animals,
which
| >> > would mean that they'd be eating the species that crazy-guy Noah
would
| >> > have so dutifully gotten on board.
| >>
| >> No WONDER all the dinosaurs, unicorns and gryphons are gone...
| >
| > And all those poor little satirists too, what a shame. Razz
|
| From a very young age I've wondered, the bible says, "And of every living
| thing of all flesh, two of every [sort] shalt thou bring into the ark, to
| keep [them] alive with thee; they shall be male and female. Of fowls
| after their kind, and of cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing
of
| the earth after his kind, two of every [sort] shall come unto thee, to
keep
| [them] alive."
|
| Now, this excludes fish but does it include penguins? It excludes all
plant
| life (apart from that that may have been carried as food and fodder) so
what
| did all the herbivores live on after the waters disappeared?
|
| How did animals like the North American Black Bear find their way to the
ark?
| It would have been a difficult trip involving at least one ocean crossing.
|
| It's always tricky looking too hard at fairy tales.

%%%% Who said it covered the whole world?

"My sense of purpose is gone! I have no idea who I AM!"
"Oh, my God... You've.. You've turned him into a DEMOCRAT!" -- Doonesbury


|
| --
| Isaac Asimov: Properly read, the Bible is the most potent
| force for atheism ever conceived.
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Dubh Ghall
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:41 pm    Post subject: Re: If Scientists Can Be Believed... Reply with quote

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:51:27 -0700, Sonnova <sonnova@audiosanatorium.com> wrote:

Quote:
On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 17:07:42 -0700, Alex W. wrote
(in article <6c5ji7F3et8sfU1@mid.individual.net>):


"Sonnova" <sonnova@audiosanatorium.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.C482B8F300104035F01846D8@news.comcast.net...
On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 08:48:49 -0700, Rod's SHAW wrote
(in article <Bp97k.18277$kx.17875@pd7urf3no>):


"American Thinker" <american.thinker@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.22c6ea64ff8bfbc198ac26@news.individual.net...
The Earth circles the Sun and we came from some kind of primordial soup
by
accident.

Notice how they don't waste any time on determining if the ark was
equipped
with sails or a 2 stroke outboard

Much less how a ship only 600 ft long could hold enough food for each
species
for that long of a voyage or how a single extended family could care for
them.


600 feet?
Have they finally figured out the exact dimension of a cubit?


An approximation, at best.

That is what a cubit is, an approximation.
It is the distance from the tip of the middle finger, to the elbow

This approximates 18 inches.

Quote:
And what the hell is gopher wood?

Probably cypress, they tend to grow tall and straight.

Quote:
Was that an order given by Noah to his sons? "Boys, gopher wood and don't come back
without it!"

Even that is possible.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 2:16 am    Post subject: Re: If Scientists Can Be Believed... Reply with quote

On Jun 22, 7:11 am, Sam Buckland <noth...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Quote:
Eyeball Kid wrote:
And the carnivores.. oh, shit. The carnivores would have to eat
something, yes? and what would that be over the course of 40 days and
nights? Why, they'd have to eat some of those "pairs" of animals, which
would mean that they'd be eating the species that crazy-guy Noah would
have so dutifully gotten on board.

No WONDER all the dinosaurs, unicorns and gryphons are gone...

It also explains why only the invisible unicorn survived. Can't be
seen, won't get eaten.

Harry K
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:25 am    Post subject: Re: If Scientists Can Be Believed... Reply with quote

chibiabos <chib@nospam.com> wrote:

Quote:
In article <MPG.22c6ea64ff8bfbc198ac26@news.individual.net>, American
Thinker <american.thinker@bellsouth.net> wrote:

The Earth circles the Sun and we came from some kind of primordial soup by
accident.

There is good reason to be skeptical of global warming.

If this is what passes for American thinking, we're all in deep shit.

-chib


Right, it should be obvious that there is no reason for
Americans to even think about something as silly as averaging
temperatures from all over the world, especially since those
temperatures do not represent any well defined amount of energy.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:59 am    Post subject: Re: If Scientists Can Be Believed... Reply with quote

On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:03:42 -0000 Geoff Lane
<zzassgl@buffy.sighup.org.uk> carved the following into the hard stone
of alt.atheism

Quote:
How did animals like the North American Black Bear find their way to the ark?
It would have been a difficult trip involving at least one ocean crossing.

Forget the Black Bear, I want to know how the freaking banana slugs
made there and back!
--

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"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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