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The Twelve Lies of Gabriel - Lie #11

 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 11:47 pm    Post subject: The Twelve Lies of Gabriel - Lie #11 Reply with quote

Here's the single paragraph which evolves into twelve lies!

"Please show where it's ever been observed that populations of [rat]s
have produced, over generations (supposedly via mutations and
accumulation of small changes) animals that are clearly no longer
[rat]s. (And you can replace [rat] with any animal you wish)."

With any animal - but not with something that isn't an animal. Try
asking him that and watch him run away and/or change the entire
question! What's he so scared of? The truth?!

In Lie #11, Gabriel chose to change it himself into [cow] - another
mammal.

11
Gabriel Posted on June 2nd at 7:20pm in alt.atheism in thread
"Templeton Foundation Shows Creationists to be LIARS": "But what is
observable, testable and verifiable: that populations of [cows] only
ever produce, over generations, [cows]. That is scientific fact, and
it's a fact that backs up exactly what God's word says."

Where, Gallus Gabriel? Where does it say that in the Bible? It
repeatedly states, "after their kind" or "after his kind" (go read it
in Genesis chapter 1), but never anywhere in the Bible does it state
that a "kind" ("type") cannot change into another "kind" ("type").

Nowhere. Gabriel has made this up not from any divine revelation, not
from any sacred text, but entirely out of his own deluded mind.

That's lie #11.

Budikka
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Budikka666
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:02 pm    Post subject: Gabriel Still Running From Lie #11 Reply with quote

On Jun 9, 12:36 pm, Gabriel <gabriel_bapt...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
I have said before and I say it again: Speciation, even
artificially induced Speciation, only ever shows [mosquitoes]
producing, over generations, more [mosquitoes]. (And you can
replace [mosquitoes] with any animal you wish).

Where's your evidence supporting this assertion? Where is your direct
eyes-on witness who has seen, over millions of years, something that
is not your (undefined) mosquito "type" failing to produce an
(undefined) mosquito "type"?

You keep making the assertion that this never happens, yet I see no
evidence either you or anyone you can name has ever OBSERVED it. And
by your own rule, if it wasn't observed, it never happened.

Get it now?

Any time you feel like you can drum up enough smarts to actually
define "type", we're still waiting. Two months later.

Keep running dimwit.

Budikka
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Budikka666
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 11:24 pm    Post subject: Still Waiting on Gabriel Even Beginning to Address Lie #11 Reply with quote

On Jun 19, 5:02 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:
Quote:
On Jun 9, 12:36 pm, Gabriel <gabriel_bapt...@hotmail.com> wrote:

I have said before and I say it again: Speciation, even
artificially induced Speciation, only ever shows [mosquitoes]
producing, over generations, more [mosquitoes]. (And you can
replace [mosquitoes] with any animal you wish).

Where's your evidence supporting this assertion? Where is your direct
eyes-on witness who has seen, over millions of years, something that
is not your (undefined) mosquito "type" failing to produce an
(undefined) mosquito "type"?

You keep making the assertion that this never happens, yet I see no
evidence either you or anyone you can name has ever OBSERVED it. And
by your own rule, if it wasn't observed, it never happened.

Get it now?

Any time you feel like you can drum up enough smarts to actually
define "type", we're still waiting. Two months later.

Keep running dimwit.

Budikka


This is one of several lies which Gabriel hasn't even pretended he can
address. Enough said!

Budikka
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:34 am    Post subject: Still Waiting on Gabriel Even Pretending he can Address Lie Reply with quote

On Jun 7, 6:47 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:
Quote:
Here's the single paragraph which evolves into twelve lies!

"Please show where it's ever been observed that populations of [rat]s
have produced, over generations (supposedly via mutations and
accumulation of small changes) animals that are clearly no longer
[rat]s. (And you can replace [rat] with any animal you wish)."

With any animal - but not with something that isn't an animal. Try
asking him that and watch him run away and/or change the entire
question! What's he so scared of? The truth?!

In Lie #11, Gabriel chose to change it himself into [cow] - another
mammal.

11
Gabriel Posted on June 2nd at 7:20pm in alt.atheism in thread
"Templeton Foundation Shows Creationists to be LIARS": "But what is
observable, testable and verifiable: that populations of [cows] only
ever produce, over generations, [cows]. That is scientific fact, and
it's a fact that backs up exactly what God's word says."

Where, Gallus Gabriel? Where does it say that in the Bible? It
repeatedly states, "after their kind" or "after his kind" (go read it
in Genesis chapter 1), but never anywhere in the Bible does it state
that a "kind" ("type") cannot change into another "kind" ("type").

Nowhere. Gabriel has made this up not from any divine revelation, not
from any sacred text, but entirely out of his own deluded mind.

That's lie #11.

Budikka

Where does it say that in the Bible, Gabriel? I asked this of you on
June 7th (I also asked again on June 19th). Now here we are a month
later, and you're still too dishonest to admit that the Bible says no
such thing.

The Bible actually supports a form of evolution, so why shouldn't a
creator create evolution? Huh?

Budikka
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