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Christian fundamentalism and Zionism: Time to terminate this unholy alliance?
Friday, June 06, 2008 -
By: Hart, Alan
In the light of the revelation (devine or not) about Pastor John Hagee's assertion that Hitler
was God's agent, is it too much to hope that Jews everywhere, and Jewish Americans especially,
will insist that Zionism terminate its unholy alliance with Christian fundamentalism?
This alliance has always seemed to me to be the greatest madness and also the biggest obscenity
in the continuing story of conflict in and over Palestine.
Historically speaking, Christian fundamentalists were classic Jew haters on the grounds, they
said, that the Jews were the "Christ killers". So what explains Christian fundamentalism's
support for Israel right or wrong - support which today includes much of the money to fund
Zionism's on-going colonisation of the occupied West Bank?
The evangelical preacher Jerry Falwell gave this answer.
The creation of the State of Israel in 1948 was the most crucial event in history since the
ascension of Jesus to heaven and
"proof that the second coming of Jesus Christ is nigh… Without a State of Israel in the
Holy Land, there cannot be the second coming of Jesus Christ, nor can there be a Last
Judgement, nor the End of the World.".
Another answer is that provided by Yakov M. Rabkin, the Jewish Canadian Professor of History
at the University of Montreal. In his book A Threat From Within, A CENTURY OF JEWISH OPPOSITION
TO ZIONISM, he writes:
"The massive support extended to the State of Israel by millions of Christian supporters
of Zionism is overtly motivated by a single consideration: that the return of the Jews to the
Holy Land will be a prelude to their acceptance of Christ (when he returns) or, for those who
fail to do so, to their physical destruction." (My emphasis added).
Simply stated, Christian fundamentalism's only interest in the Zionist state of Israel is in
assisting it to become the instrument for bringing about, as foretold by the Christian Bible,
the end of the world in a final battle at Armageddon between the forces of good and evil. In
this scenario the Jews will have a choice - either to junk their Judaism and become Christians,
in which case they will be beamed up to heaven, or to be annihlated… It seems to me that
there's a case for saying that Christian fundamentalism is, potentially, a far bigger threat to
Jews and Judaism than all the Arabs and other Muslims of the world put together, including a
nuclear-armed Iran!
So why is Zionism in alliance with Christian fundamentalism?
The short answer needs only two words - political expendiency.
On its own and in its various manifestations, the Zionist (not Israel!) lobby is awesomely
powerful. It is even more influential, in America especially, in association with Christian
fundamentalism. In May 2002, the BBC's admirable Stephen Sackur presented a remarkable radio
documentary, A Lobby to Reckon With. It was honest, investigative journalism at its very best.
The programme explained why it was no longer accurate to talk about the Zionist lobby (which in
my view was wrongly called the Israel lobby) as the main influence on American policy for the
Middle East. There was now a more powerful lobby, one that had been formed, effectively if not
institutionally, by the Zionists joining forces with Christian fundamentalism. As Sackur
observed, "It is an alliance of the two best organised networks in the U.S."
Another way to put it would be to say that America's elected representatives, almost all of
them including their Presidents, are frightened of offending Zionism too much and sometimes at
all, and terrified of offending Zionism in alliance with Christian fundamentalism.
A truth about Zionism is that it's always been ready, willing and able to use or be used by any
power or interest when doing so advanced its own cause. It has never needed a spoon, long or
short, to sup with the devil. Those who are familiar with the most intimate details of
Zionism's history know that in 1940 there was a Zionist offer to collaborate with Nazi Germany
- to participate in the war on Germany's side and to assist the establishment of Hitler's New
(totalitarian) Order in Europe.
To this day Zionism and all supporters of Israel right or wrong deny there was ever a Zionist
proposal for collaboration with Nazi Germany, just as they deny Zionism's ethnic cleansing of
Palestine in 1948/49 and on-going; but 45 years after the offer was made in writing, Yehoshafat
Harkabi, Israel's longest serving director of Military Intelligence, made the following
observation about it in his book, Israel's Fateful Hour:
"Perhaps, for peace of mind, we ought to see this affair as an aberrant episode in Jewish
history. Nevertheless, it should alert us to how far extremists may go in times of distress,
and where their manias may lead." (My empassis added).
It could also that there was a financial consideration in Zionsm's decision to use and be used
by Christian fundamentalism. At some point in the future it's not impossible that the more
American and European Jews realise that Zionism is their enemy, the less they will be willing
to pump money into the Zionist state.. In that event, Zionism may have calculated, it will need
Christian fundamentalist money more than ever.
I've never believed that enough Americans would be stupid enough to put Senator John McCain in
the White House, and hopefully his better-late-than-never rejection of Hagee's endorsement will
guarantee his defeat.
The only "end of times" I wish for is the termination of the unholy alliance between Christian
fundamentalism and Zionism. Amen.
The opinions and views articulated by the author do not necessarily reflect those of Israel e News.
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** |
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On Jun 7, 4:40 am, Ramabriga <Ramabr...@gmail.com> wrote:
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Christian fundamentalism and Zionism: Time to terminate this unholy alliance?
Friday, June 06, 2008 -
By: Hart, Alan
In the light of the revelation (devine or not) about Pastor John Hagee's assertion that Hitler
was God's agent, is it too much to hope that Jews everywhere, and Jewish Americans especially,
will insist that Zionism terminate its unholy alliance with Christian fundamentalism?
This alliance has always seemed to me to be the greatest madness and also the biggest obscenity
in the continuing story of conflict in and over Palestine.
Historically speaking, Christian fundamentalists were classic Jew haters on the grounds, they
said, that the Jews were the "Christ killers". So what explains Christian fundamentalism's
support for Israel right or wrong - support which today includes much of the money to fund
Zionism's on-going colonisation of the occupied West Bank?
The evangelical preacher Jerry Falwell gave this answer.
The creation of the State of Israel in 1948 was the most crucial event in history since the
ascension of Jesus to heaven and
"proof that the second coming of Jesus Christ is nigh… Without a State of Israel in the
Holy Land, there cannot be the second coming of Jesus Christ, nor can there be a Last
Judgement, nor the End of the World.".
Another answer is that provided by Yakov M. Rabkin, the Jewish Canadian Professor of History
at the University of Montreal. In his book A Threat From Within, A CENTURY OF JEWISH OPPOSITION
TO ZIONISM, he writes:
"The massive support extended to the State of Israel by millions of Christian supporters
of Zionism is overtly motivated by a single consideration: that the return of the Jews to the
Holy Land will be a prelude to their acceptance of Christ (when he returns) or, for those who
fail to do so, to their physical destruction." (My emphasis added).
Simply stated, Christian fundamentalism's only interest in the Zionist state of Israel is in
assisting it to become the instrument for bringing about, as foretold by the Christian Bible,
the end of the world in a final battle at Armageddon between the forces of good and evil. In
this scenario the Jews will have a choice - either to junk their Judaism and become Christians,
in which case they will be beamed up to heaven, or to be annihlated… It seems to me that
there's a case for saying that Christian fundamentalism is, potentially, a far bigger threat to
Jews and Judaism than all the Arabs and other Muslims of the world put together, including a
nuclear-armed Iran!
So why is Zionism in alliance with Christian fundamentalism?
The short answer needs only two words - political expendiency.
On its own and in its various manifestations, the Zionist (not Israel!) lobby is awesomely
powerful. It is even more influential, in America especially, in association with Christian
fundamentalism. In May 2002, the BBC's admirable Stephen Sackur presented a remarkable radio
documentary, A Lobby to Reckon With. It was honest, investigative journalism at its very best.
The programme explained why it was no longer accurate to talk about the Zionist lobby (which in
my view was wrongly called the Israel lobby) as the main influence on American policy for the
Middle East. There was now a more powerful lobby, one that had been formed, effectively if not
institutionally, by the Zionists joining forces with Christian fundamentalism. As Sackur
observed, "It is an alliance of the two best organised networks in the U.S.."
Another way to put it would be to say that America's elected representatives, almost all of
them including their Presidents, are frightened of offending Zionism too much and sometimes at
all, and terrified of offending Zionism in alliance with Christian fundamentalism.
A truth about Zionism is that it's always been ready, willing and able to use or be used by any
power or interest when doing so advanced its own cause. It has never needed a spoon, long or
short, to sup with the devil. Those who are familiar with the most intimate details of
Zionism's history know that in 1940 there was a Zionist offer to collaborate with Nazi Germany
- to participate in the war on Germany's side and to assist the establishment of Hitler's New
(totalitarian) Order in Europe.
To this day Zionism and all supporters of Israel right or wrong deny there was ever a Zionist
proposal for collaboration with Nazi Germany, just as they deny Zionism's ethnic cleansing of
Palestine in 1948/49 and on-going; but 45 years after the offer was made in writing, Yehoshafat
Harkabi, Israel's longest serving director of Military Intelligence, made the following
observation about it in his book, Israel's Fateful Hour:
"Perhaps, for peace of mind, we ought to see this affair as an aberrant episode in Jewish
history. Nevertheless, it should alert us to how far extremists may go in times of distress,
and where their manias may lead." (My empassis added).
It could also that there was a financial consideration in Zionsm's decision to use and be used
by Christian fundamentalism. At some point in the future it's not impossible that the more
American and European Jews realise that Zionism is their enemy, the less they will be willing
to pump money into the Zionist state.. In that event, Zionism may have calculated, it will need
Christian fundamentalist money more than ever.
I've never believed that enough Americans would be stupid enough to put Senator John McCain in
the White House, and hopefully his better-late-than-never rejection of Hagee's endorsement will
guarantee his defeat.
The only "end of times" I wish for is the termination of the unholy alliance between Christian
fundamentalism and Zionism. Amen.
The opinions and views articulated by the author do not necessarily reflect those of Israel e News.
** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**
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On Jun 7, 10:16 am, "Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names"
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On Jun 7, 4:40 am, Ramabriga <Ramabr...@gmail.com> wrote:
Christian fundamentalism and Zionism: Time to terminate this unholy alliance?
Friday, June 06, 2008 -
By: Hart, Alan
In the light of the revelation (devine or not) about Pastor John Hagee's assertion that Hitler
was God's agent, is it too much to hope that Jews everywhere, and Jewish Americans especially,
will insist that Zionism terminate its unholy alliance with Christian fundamentalism?
This alliance has always seemed to me to be the greatest madness and also the biggest obscenity
in the continuing story of conflict in and over Palestine.
Historically speaking, Christian fundamentalists were classic Jew haters on the grounds, they
said, that the Jews were the "Christ killers". So what explains Christian fundamentalism's
support for Israel right or wrong - support which today includes much of the money to fund
Zionism's on-going colonisation of the occupied West Bank?
The evangelical preacher Jerry Falwell gave this answer.
The creation of the State of Israel in 1948 was the most crucial event in history since the
ascension of Jesus to heaven and
"proof that the second coming of Jesus Christ is nigh… Without a State of Israel in the
Holy Land, there cannot be the second coming of Jesus Christ, nor can there be a Last
Judgement, nor the End of the World.".
Another answer is that provided by Yakov M. Rabkin, the Jewish Canadian Professor of History
at the University of Montreal. In his book A Threat From Within, A CENTURY OF JEWISH OPPOSITION
TO ZIONISM, he writes:
"The massive support extended to the State of Israel by millions of Christian supporters
of Zionism is overtly motivated by a single consideration: that the return of the Jews to the
Holy Land will be a prelude to their acceptance of Christ (when he returns) or, for those who
fail to do so, to their physical destruction." (My emphasis added).
Simply stated, Christian fundamentalism's only interest in the Zionist state of Israel is in
assisting it to become the instrument for bringing about, as foretold by the Christian Bible,
the end of the world in a final battle at Armageddon between the forces of good and evil. In
this scenario the Jews will have a choice - either to junk their Judaism and become Christians,
in which case they will be beamed up to heaven, or to be annihlated… It seems to me that
there's a case for saying that Christian fundamentalism is, potentially, a far bigger threat to
Jews and Judaism than all the Arabs and other Muslims of the world put together, including a
nuclear-armed Iran!
So why is Zionism in alliance with Christian fundamentalism?
The short answer needs only two words - political expendiency.
On its own and in its various manifestations, the Zionist (not Israel!) lobby is awesomely
powerful. It is even more influential, in America especially, in association with Christian
fundamentalism. In May 2002, the BBC's admirable Stephen Sackur presented a remarkable radio
documentary, A Lobby to Reckon With. It was honest, investigative journalism at its very best.
The programme explained why it was no longer accurate to talk about the Zionist lobby (which in
my view was wrongly called the Israel lobby) as the main influence on American policy for the
Middle East. There was now a more powerful lobby, one that had been formed, effectively if not
institutionally, by the Zionists joining forces with Christian fundamentalism. As Sackur
observed, "It is an alliance of the two best organised networks in the U..S."
Another way to put it would be to say that America's elected representatives, almost all of
them including their Presidents, are frightened of offending Zionism too much and sometimes at
all, and terrified of offending Zionism in alliance with Christian fundamentalism.
A truth about Zionism is that it's always been ready, willing and able to use or be used by any
power or interest when doing so advanced its own cause. It has never needed a spoon, long or
short, to sup with the devil. Those who are familiar with the most intimate details of
Zionism's history know that in 1940 there was a Zionist offer to collaborate with Nazi Germany
- to participate in the war on Germany's side and to assist the establishment of Hitler's New
(totalitarian) Order in Europe.
To this day Zionism and all supporters of Israel right or wrong deny there was ever a Zionist
proposal for collaboration with Nazi Germany, just as they deny Zionism's ethnic cleansing of
Palestine in 1948/49 and on-going; but 45 years after the offer was made in writing, Yehoshafat
Harkabi, Israel's longest serving director of Military Intelligence, made the following
observation about it in his book, Israel's Fateful Hour:
"Perhaps, for peace of mind, we ought to see this affair as an aberrant episode in Jewish
history. Nevertheless, it should alert us to how far extremists may go in times of distress,
and where their manias may lead." (My empassis added).
It could also that there was a financial consideration in Zionsm's decision to use and be used
by Christian fundamentalism. At some point in the future it's not impossible that the more
American and European Jews realise that Zionism is their enemy, the less they will be willing
to pump money into the Zionist state.. In that event, Zionism may have calculated, it will need
Christian fundamentalist money more than ever.
I've never believed that enough Americans would be stupid enough to put Senator John McCain in
the White House, and hopefully his better-late-than-never rejection of Hagee's endorsement will
guarantee his defeat.
The only "end of times" I wish for is the termination of the unholy alliance between Christian
fundamentalism and Zionism. Amen.
The opinions and views articulated by the author do not necessarily reflect those of Israel e News.
** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**
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