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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:22 pm    Post subject: The Twelve Lies of Gabriel - Lie #1 Reply with quote

Here's the single paragraph which evolves into twelve lies!

"Please show where it's ever been observed that populations of [rat]s
have produced, over generations (supposedly via mutations and
accumulation of small changes) animals that are clearly no longer
[rat]s. (And you can replace [rat] with any animal you wish)."

That has to be something of a record, even for a creationist. These
lies follow Gabriel around everywhere he goes, like twelve disciples.
But Gabriel implicitly insists that he's God, so that's really quite
hunky-dory.

Gabriel is too much of a Gallus domesticus to even face up to his
lies, so I decided to post them individually, to force him into
addressing them.

We're looking for several things here.

The first is an apology for lying. I guarantee you we won't get it.
Gabriel isn't into apologies. He won't even apologize to the
thousands of fellow Christians he religiously insults on a daily
basis. More on this anon.

Gabriel won't go the extra mile. He won't give you his coat. He
actually isn't a Christian. But then neither was god, and since
Gabriel is God, that's just ducky, isn't it?

The second is that Gabriel will at least face his lies, something he
has fled from doing every time they've been brought to his attention.
I doubt we'll see this either, since in order to face them, he'd have
to remove the plank from his own eye, which he is convinced isn't
there, because he can't see it. He can't see it, of course, because
there's a massive plank in his eye.

The third is that Gabriel will overcome his chronic cowardice and
actually address his lies. Even then he won't refute them unless you
consider, as does Gabriel, that chanting "No it isn't!" endlessly,
mindlessly, robotically, is a refutation.

But in Gabriel's favor, he's no different in any of the above than any
other creationist.

Lie #1
1. "Please show where it's ever been observed"
Here in the very first clause is where Gabriel sets himself up as the
arbiter of what's evolution and what isn't! He's not a scientist. He
doesn't even understand science. He lies about science on a daily
basis, even when that science is done by his fellow Christians.

But he is god so he *does* get to dictate what evolution is! So he
pretends.

The hell with the real definitions. The hell with 150 years of solid
science much of which was supplied by his fellow Christians.

No, Gabriel is the only one who can define evolution even though you
can quite literally write volumes on his ignorance of the subject.

He's so pathetically insecure that he wants *his* definition of
evolution from the outset, and the hell with what it really is. He's
like a kid who will take his ball and go home if we don't all bow down
to the FALSE GOD he's blasphemously made of himself.

Gabriel is going to make up his own bullshit definition in such a way
that the *only* answer he will accept is the one (he thinks) cannot be
supplied.

He's wrong. His dishonesty has been overcome many times in many ways,
yet he continues to LIE that it hasn't so that he can continue with
his thoroughly dishonest bullshit "challenge", so he can flat out deny
the evidence, insist that no one has met the challenge to *his*
satisfaction, and then claim "See I disproved evolution!"

Guess what? Gabriel isn't the arbiter of what's evolution and what
isn't.

He has absolutely no qualifications whatsoever on the topic yet he
dishonestly pretends he's more qualified than quite literally
thousands of his fellow Christians who accept evolution based on
multiple lines of evidence including the kind evidence for which he
asks above.

How much more dishonest can you get? Well, quite a bit, actually,
when you're Gallus Gabriel and you have no integrity, no intellect, no
ability to support a claim or to discuss a subject, and no scruples
whatsoever.

His whole question is dishonest from the ground up and you can see it
here in the first clause before he ever gets to the meat of it.

That's lie #1. Eleven more are on their way.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:12 pm    Post subject: Re: The Twelve Lies of Gabriel - Lie #1 Reply with quote

On Jun 4, 1:22 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:
Quote:
Here's the single paragraph which evolves into twelve lies!

"Please show where it's ever been observed that populations of [rat]s
have produced, over generations (supposedly via mutations and
accumulation of small changes) animals that are clearly no longer
[rat]s. (And you can replace [rat] with any animal you wish)."

That has to be something of a record, even for a creationist. These
lies follow Gabriel around everywhere he goes, like twelve disciples.
But Gabriel implicitly insists that he's God, so that's really quite
hunky-dory.

Gabriel is too much of a Gallus domesticus to even face up to his
lies, so I decided to post them individually, to force him into
addressing them.

We're looking for several things here.

The first is an apology for lying. I guarantee you we won't get it.
Gabriel isn't into apologies. He won't even apologize to the
thousands of fellow Christians he religiously insults on a daily
basis. More on this anon.

Gabriel won't go the extra mile. He won't give you his coat. He
actually isn't a Christian. But then neither was god, and since
Gabriel is God, that's just ducky, isn't it?

The second is that Gabriel will at least face his lies, something he
has fled from doing every time they've been brought to his attention.
I doubt we'll see this either, since in order to face them, he'd have
to remove the plank from his own eye, which he is convinced isn't
there, because he can't see it. He can't see it, of course, because
there's a massive plank in his eye.

The third is that Gabriel will overcome his chronic cowardice and
actually address his lies. Even then he won't refute them unless you
consider, as does Gabriel, that chanting "No it isn't!" endlessly,
mindlessly, robotically, is a refutation.

But in Gabriel's favor, he's no different in any of the above than any
other creationist.

Lie #1
1. "Please show where it's ever been observed"
Here in the very first clause is where Gabriel sets himself up as the
arbiter of what's evolution and what isn't! He's not a scientist. He
doesn't even understand science. He lies about science on a daily
basis, even when that science is done by his fellow Christians.

But he is god so he *does* get to dictate what evolution is! So he
pretends.

The hell with the real definitions. The hell with 150 years of solid
science much of which was supplied by his fellow Christians.

No, Gabriel is the only one who can define evolution even though you
can quite literally write volumes on his ignorance of the subject.

He's so pathetically insecure that he wants *his* definition of
evolution from the outset, and the hell with what it really is. He's
like a kid who will take his ball and go home if we don't all bow down
to the FALSE GOD he's blasphemously made of himself.

Gabriel is going to make up his own bullshit definition in such a way
that the *only* answer he will accept is the one (he thinks) cannot be
supplied.

He's wrong. His dishonesty has been overcome many times in many ways,
yet he continues to LIE that it hasn't so that he can continue with
his thoroughly dishonest bullshit "challenge", so he can flat out deny
the evidence, insist that no one has met the challenge to *his*
satisfaction, and then claim "See I disproved evolution!"

Guess what? Gabriel isn't the arbiter of what's evolution and what
isn't.

He has absolutely no qualifications whatsoever on the topic yet he
dishonestly pretends he's more qualified than quite literally
thousands of his fellow Christians who accept evolution based on
multiple lines of evidence including the kind evidence for which he
asks above.

How much more dishonest can you get? Well, quite a bit, actually,
when you're Gallus Gabriel and you have no integrity, no intellect, no
ability to support a claim or to discuss a subject, and no scruples
whatsoever.

His whole question is dishonest from the ground up and you can see it
here in the first clause before he ever gets to the meat of it.

That's lie #1. Eleven more are on their way.

Pleasse!!!! Don't ever answer this idiot! or as I have seen, "Don't
feed the troll."
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:00 am    Post subject: Re: The Twelve Lies of Gabriel - Lie #1 Reply with quote

On Jun 4, 4:12 pm, meg <ekrub...@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Jun 4, 1:22 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:





Here's the single paragraph which evolves into twelve lies!

"Please show where it's ever been observed that populations of [rat]s
have produced, over generations (supposedly via mutations and
accumulation of small changes) animals that are clearly no longer
[rat]s. (And you can replace [rat] with any animal you wish)."

That has to be something of a record, even for a creationist.  These
lies follow Gabriel around everywhere he goes, like twelve disciples.
But Gabriel implicitly insists that he's God, so that's really quite
hunky-dory.

Gabriel is too much of a Gallus domesticus to even face up to his
lies, so I decided to post them individually, to force him into
addressing them.

We're looking for several things here.

The first is an apology for lying.  I guarantee you we won't get it.
Gabriel isn't into apologies.  He won't even apologize to the
thousands of fellow Christians he religiously insults on a daily
basis.  More on this anon.

Gabriel won't go the extra mile.  He won't give you his coat.  He
actually isn't a Christian.  But then neither was god, and since
Gabriel is God, that's just ducky, isn't it?

The second is that Gabriel will at least face his lies, something he
has fled from doing every time they've been brought to his attention.
I doubt we'll see this either, since in order to face them, he'd have
to remove the plank from his own eye, which he is convinced isn't
there, because he can't see it.  He can't see it, of course, because
there's a massive plank in his eye.

The third is that Gabriel will overcome his chronic cowardice and
actually address his lies.  Even then he won't refute them unless you
consider, as does Gabriel, that chanting "No it isn't!" endlessly,
mindlessly, robotically, is a refutation.

But in Gabriel's favor, he's no different in any of the above than any
other creationist.

Lie #1
1.  "Please show where it's ever been observed"
Here in the very first clause is where Gabriel sets himself up as the
arbiter of what's evolution and what isn't!  He's not a scientist.  He
doesn't even understand science.  He lies about science on a daily
basis, even when that science is done by his fellow Christians.

But he is god so he *does* get to dictate what evolution is!  So he
pretends.

The hell with the real definitions.  The hell with 150 years of solid
science much of which was supplied by his fellow Christians.

No, Gabriel is the only one who can define evolution even though you
can quite literally write volumes on his ignorance of the subject.

He's so pathetically insecure that he wants *his* definition of
evolution from the outset, and the hell with what it really is.  He's
like a kid who will take his ball and go home if we don't all bow down
to the FALSE GOD he's blasphemously made of himself.

Gabriel is going to make up his own bullshit definition in such a way
that the *only* answer he will accept is the one (he thinks) cannot be
supplied.

He's wrong.  His dishonesty has been overcome many times in many ways,
yet he continues to LIE that it hasn't so that he can continue with
his thoroughly dishonest bullshit "challenge", so he can flat out deny
the evidence, insist that no one has met the challenge to *his*
satisfaction, and then claim "See I disproved evolution!"

Guess what?  Gabriel isn't the arbiter of what's evolution and what
isn't.

He has absolutely no qualifications whatsoever on the topic yet he
dishonestly pretends he's more qualified than quite literally
thousands of his fellow Christians who accept evolution based on
multiple lines of evidence including the kind evidence for which he
asks above.

How much more dishonest can you get?  Well, quite a bit, actually,
when you're Gallus Gabriel and you have no integrity, no intellect, no
ability to support a claim or to discuss a subject, and no scruples
whatsoever.

His whole question is dishonest from the ground up and you can see it
here in the first clause before he ever gets to the meat of it.

That's lie #1.  Eleven more are on their way.

Pleasse!!!!   Don't ever answer this idiot!  or as I have seen, "Don't
feed the troll."

Buddika666 is *hardly* a troll, sugarpants. Buddika666 has been in
alt.atheism longer than *I* have and I got here in 1995.

No, unfortunately for you, Buddika666 is a sharp, well-educated,
fearless educator of funnymentalist idiots, revealer of Those Who Lie,
and alt.atheism regular.

Be afraid. Be *very* afraid.

Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
BAAWA Knight
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:20 am    Post subject: Re: The Twelve Lies of Gabriel - Lie #1 Reply with quote

In article <76c1a0e7-f89a-4f43-8c13-a271e6a56010@f24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> SkyEyes <skyeyes9@cox.net> writes:
Quote:
On Jun 4, 4:12=A0pm, meg <ekrub...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 4, 1:22 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:





Here's the single paragraph which evolves into twelve lies!

"Please show where it's ever been observed that populations of [rat]s
have produced, over generations (supposedly via mutations and
accumulation of small changes) animals that are clearly no longer
[rat]s. (And you can replace [rat] with any animal you wish)."

That has to be something of a record, even for a creationist. =A0These
lies follow Gabriel around everywhere he goes, like twelve disciples.
But Gabriel implicitly insists that he's God, so that's really quite
hunky-dory.

Gabriel is too much of a Gallus domesticus to even face up to his
lies, so I decided to post them individually, to force him into
addressing them.

We're looking for several things here.

The first is an apology for lying. =A0I guarantee you we won't get it.
Gabriel isn't into apologies. =A0He won't even apologize to the
thousands of fellow Christians he religiously insults on a daily
basis. =A0More on this anon.

Gabriel won't go the extra mile. =A0He won't give you his coat. =A0He
actually isn't a Christian. =A0But then neither was god, and since
Gabriel is God, that's just ducky, isn't it?

The second is that Gabriel will at least face his lies, something he
has fled from doing every time they've been brought to his attention.
I doubt we'll see this either, since in order to face them, he'd have
to remove the plank from his own eye, which he is convinced isn't
there, because he can't see it. =A0He can't see it, of course, because
there's a massive plank in his eye.

The third is that Gabriel will overcome his chronic cowardice and
actually address his lies. =A0Even then he won't refute them unless you
consider, as does Gabriel, that chanting "No it isn't!" endlessly,
mindlessly, robotically, is a refutation.

But in Gabriel's favor, he's no different in any of the above than any
other creationist.

Lie #1
1. =A0"Please show where it's ever been observed"
Here in the very first clause is where Gabriel sets himself up as the
arbiter of what's evolution and what isn't! =A0He's not a scientist. =A0=
He
doesn't even understand science. =A0He lies about science on a daily
basis, even when that science is done by his fellow Christians.

But he is god so he *does* get to dictate what evolution is! =A0So he
pretends.

The hell with the real definitions. =A0The hell with 150 years of solid
science much of which was supplied by his fellow Christians.

No, Gabriel is the only one who can define evolution even though you
can quite literally write volumes on his ignorance of the subject.

He's so pathetically insecure that he wants *his* definition of
evolution from the outset, and the hell with what it really is. =A0He's
like a kid who will take his ball and go home if we don't all bow down
to the FALSE GOD he's blasphemously made of himself.

Gabriel is going to make up his own bullshit definition in such a way
that the *only* answer he will accept is the one (he thinks) cannot be
supplied.

He's wrong. =A0His dishonesty has been overcome many times in many ways,=

yet he continues to LIE that it hasn't so that he can continue with
his thoroughly dishonest bullshit "challenge", so he can flat out deny
the evidence, insist that no one has met the challenge to *his*
satisfaction, and then claim "See I disproved evolution!"

Guess what? =A0Gabriel isn't the arbiter of what's evolution and what
isn't.

He has absolutely no qualifications whatsoever on the topic yet he
dishonestly pretends he's more qualified than quite literally
thousands of his fellow Christians who accept evolution based on
multiple lines of evidence including the kind evidence for which he
asks above.

How much more dishonest can you get? =A0Well, quite a bit, actually,
when you're Gallus Gabriel and you have no integrity, no intellect, no
ability to support a claim or to discuss a subject, and no scruples
whatsoever.

His whole question is dishonest from the ground up and you can see it
here in the first clause before he ever gets to the meat of it.

That's lie #1. =A0Eleven more are on their way.

Pleasse!!!! =A0 Don't ever answer this idiot! =A0or as I have seen, "Don't=

feed the troll."

Buddika666 is *hardly* a troll, sugarpants. Buddika666 has been in
alt.atheism longer than *I* have and I got here in 1995.

No, unfortunately for you, Buddika666 is a sharp, well-educated,
fearless educator of funnymentalist idiots, revealer of Those Who Lie,
and alt.atheism regular.

Heh. It's like Duke's frequent, jaw-dropping, claims that he's smarter
than Buddika.

Apropos of Duke, I once pointed Buddika to a fairly well-known study
which demonstrated that, to put it as non-technically as possible,
stupid people often cannot perceive that they are stupid.

There may be a God after all, because I regard that lack as a
pure blessing for to stupid people.

(though not to the rest of us)


-- cary
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:49 am    Post subject: Re: The Twelve Lies of Gabriel - Lie #1 Reply with quote

On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 13:22:03 -0700 (PDT), Budikka666
<budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:

Quote:
Here's the single paragraph which evolves into twelve lies!

"Please show where it's ever been observed that populations of [rat]s
have produced, over generations (supposedly via mutations and
accumulation of small changes) animals that are clearly no longer
[rat]s. (And you can replace [rat] with any animal you wish)."

That has to be something of a record, even for a creationist. These
lies follow Gabriel around everywhere he goes, like twelve disciples.
But Gabriel implicitly insists that he's God, so that's really quite
hunky-dory.

Part of it is they project their "poof, it all happened suddenly"
mentality even though it's like demanding to know at what point yellow
becomes green on the visible spectrum.

Quote:
Gabriel is too much of a Gallus domesticus to even face up to his
lies, so I decided to post them individually, to force him into
addressing them.

We're looking for several things here.

The first is an apology for lying. I guarantee you we won't get it.
Gabriel isn't into apologies. He won't even apologize to the
thousands of fellow Christians he religiously insults on a daily
basis. More on this anon.

Gabriel won't go the extra mile. He won't give you his coat. He
actually isn't a Christian. But then neither was god, and since
Gabriel is God, that's just ducky, isn't it?

No matter how many times you tell him, he will never acknowledge that
evolution has nothing to do with atheism or vice versa. It's simply a
well understood scientific fact that is acknowledged as such even by
educated, non-fundamentalist Christians. Who in the USA outnumber
atheists by a factor of about four to one.

Quote:
The second is that Gabriel will at least face his lies, something he
has fled from doing every time they've been brought to his attention.
I doubt we'll see this either, since in order to face them, he'd have
to remove the plank from his own eye, which he is convinced isn't
there, because he can't see it. He can't see it, of course, because
there's a massive plank in his eye.

Like far too many other Christians.

Quote:
The third is that Gabriel will overcome his chronic cowardice and
actually address his lies. Even then he won't refute them unless you
consider, as does Gabriel, that chanting "No it isn't!" endlessly,
mindlessly, robotically, is a refutation.

But in Gabriel's favor, he's no different in any of the above than any
other creationist.

Lie #1
1. "Please show where it's ever been observed"
Here in the very first clause is where Gabriel sets himself up as the
arbiter of what's evolution and what isn't! He's not a scientist. He
doesn't even understand science. He lies about science on a daily
basis, even when that science is done by his fellow Christians.

To be fair, that's what the leading creationists do. And being
uneducated he believes them.

It's Ovid's crocaduck. Like I said, they think it should happen all at
once.

But he's been given plenty of examples, as well as the talk.origins
FAQs which list plenty, and as well as being given examples of ring
species - which are in the process of speciating.

Another good link I don't think he's been given, is:

http://www.simonyi.ox.ac.uk/dawkins/WorldOfDawkins-archive/Dawkins/Work/Articles/1993gaps_in_the_mind.shtml

http://tinyurl.com/cmbap

Quote:
But he is god so he *does* get to dictate what evolution is! So he
pretends.

He's a fundy. So he knows what evolution is better than scientists do.
Just as he knows what atheism is better than we do ourselves.

Quote:
The hell with the real definitions. The hell with 150 years of solid
science much of which was supplied by his fellow Christians.

The rare occasions they acknowledge this they pretend the result was
actually due to Christianity. The same Christianity that burned Bruno
and Servetus, and kept Galileo under house arrest.

Quote:
No, Gabriel is the only one who can define evolution even though you
can quite literally write volumes on his ignorance of the subject.

He's so pathetically insecure that he wants *his* definition of
evolution from the outset, and the hell with what it really is. He's
like a kid who will take his ball and go home if we don't all bow down
to the FALSE GOD he's blasphemously made of himself.

Like I said, he is uneducated and ignorant. He got it from leading
Liars For God whom he trusts.

Quote:
Gabriel is going to make up his own bullshit definition in such a way
that the *only* answer he will accept is the one (he thinks) cannot be
supplied.

They want an absolute yes or no even though it's unjustified because
that is the way their minds work They can't come to grips with "the
evidence is suggests..." let alone the concept of provisional,
falsifiable conclusion that becomes less provisional the longer it
remains unfalsified.

Quote:
He's wrong. His dishonesty has been overcome many times in many ways,
yet he continues to LIE that it hasn't so that he can continue with
his thoroughly dishonest bullshit "challenge", so he can flat out deny
the evidence, insist that no one has met the challenge to *his*
satisfaction, and then claim "See I disproved evolution!"

As well as what I've said above, he _is_ dishonest.

Quote:
Guess what? Gabriel isn't the arbiter of what's evolution and what
isn't.

They don't see it that way.

They live in their own alternate reality where facts are what their
religious leaders say they are, with their own version of the English
language that uses different meanings for every day words. As well as
their own rules of logic.

Quote:
He has absolutely no qualifications whatsoever on the topic yet he
dishonestly pretends he's more qualified than quite literally
thousands of his fellow Christians who accept evolution based on
multiple lines of evidence including the kind evidence for which he
asks above.

In short he's a fundamentalist and creationist.

Have you ever seen an honest one?

Quote:
How much more dishonest can you get? Well, quite a bit, actually,
when you're Gallus Gabriel and you have no integrity, no intellect, no
ability to support a claim or to discuss a subject, and no scruples
whatsoever.

His whole question is dishonest from the ground up and you can see it
here in the first clause before he ever gets to the meat of it.

That's lie #1. Eleven more are on their way.

They're here to tell us whether we are interested or not.

Regardless of the fact that it has nothing to do with atheism or vice
versa.

They don't seem to understand how many meta-levels of "debate" they
have to go through before there is anything to discuss. In this case
what evolution actually is, that it is accepted by non-fundamentalist
Christians etc.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:47 am    Post subject: Re: The Twelve Lies of Gabriel - Lie #1 Reply with quote

On Jun 4, 1:22 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:
Quote:
Here's the single paragraph which evolves into twelve lies!

"Please show where it's ever been observed that populations of [rat]s
have produced, over generations (supposedly via mutations and
accumulation of small changes) animals that are clearly no longer
[rat]s. (And you can replace [rat] with any animal you wish)."

That has to be something of a record, even for a creationist.  These
lies follow Gabriel around everywhere he goes, like twelve disciples.
But Gabriel implicitly insists that he's God, so that's really quite
hunky-dory.

Gabriel is too much of a Gallus domesticus to even face up to his
lies, so I decided to post them individually, to force him into
addressing them.

We're looking for several things here.

The first is an apology for lying.  I guarantee you we won't get it.
Gabriel isn't into apologies.  He won't even apologize to the
thousands of fellow Christians he religiously insults on a daily
basis.  More on this anon.

Gabriel won't go the extra mile.  He won't give you his coat.  He
actually isn't a Christian.  But then neither was god, and since
Gabriel is God, that's just ducky, isn't it?

The second is that Gabriel will at least face his lies, something he
has fled from doing every time they've been brought to his attention.
I doubt we'll see this either, since in order to face them, he'd have
to remove the plank from his own eye, which he is convinced isn't
there, because he can't see it.  He can't see it, of course, because
there's a massive plank in his eye.

The third is that Gabriel will overcome his chronic cowardice and
actually address his lies.  Even then he won't refute them unless you
consider, as does Gabriel, that chanting "No it isn't!" endlessly,
mindlessly, robotically, is a refutation.

But in Gabriel's favor, he's no different in any of the above than any
other creationist.

Lie #1
1.  "Please show where it's ever been observed"
Here in the very first clause is where Gabriel sets himself up as the
arbiter of what's evolution and what isn't!  He's not a scientist.  He
doesn't even understand science.  He lies about science on a daily
basis, even when that science is done by his fellow Christians.

But he is god so he *does* get to dictate what evolution is!  So he
pretends.

The hell with the real definitions.  The hell with 150 years of solid
science much of which was supplied by his fellow Christians.

No, Gabriel is the only one who can define evolution even though you
can quite literally write volumes on his ignorance of the subject.

He's so pathetically insecure that he wants *his* definition of
evolution from the outset, and the hell with what it really is.  He's
like a kid who will take his ball and go home if we don't all bow down
to the FALSE GOD he's blasphemously made of himself.

Gabriel is going to make up his own bullshit definition in such a way
that the *only* answer he will accept is the one (he thinks) cannot be
supplied.

He's wrong.  His dishonesty has been overcome many times in many ways,
yet he continues to LIE that it hasn't so that he can continue with
his thoroughly dishonest bullshit "challenge", so he can flat out deny
the evidence, insist that no one has met the challenge to *his*
satisfaction, and then claim "See I disproved evolution!"

Guess what?  Gabriel isn't the arbiter of what's evolution and what
isn't.

He has absolutely no qualifications whatsoever on the topic yet he
dishonestly pretends he's more qualified than quite literally
thousands of his fellow Christians who accept evolution based on
multiple lines of evidence including the kind evidence for which he
asks above.

How much more dishonest can you get?  Well, quite a bit, actually,
when you're Gallus Gabriel and you have no integrity, no intellect, no
ability to support a claim or to discuss a subject, and no scruples
whatsoever.

His whole question is dishonest from the ground up and you can see it
here in the first clause before he ever gets to the meat of it.

That's lie #1.  Eleven more are on their way.

Nearly all Atheists are not evolutionists because evolution supports
the Bible or Christianity. Nearly all Atheists are evolutionists
because evolution supports their worldview. Therefore any Christian
who supports evolution is ignorant, deceived, deluded, or an Atheist
in sheeps clothing.

How else would one explain "Christians" who support the exact same
origins theory that Richard Dawkins rabidly supports? Of course
Dawkins is a real Atheist.

Ray
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:52 am    Post subject: Re: The Twelve Lies of Gabriel - Lie #1 Reply with quote

On Jun 4, 4:12 pm, meg <ekrub...@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Jun 4, 1:22 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:





Here's the single paragraph which evolves into twelve lies!

"Please show where it's ever been observed that populations of [rat]s
have produced, over generations (supposedly via mutations and
accumulation of small changes) animals that are clearly no longer
[rat]s. (And you can replace [rat] with any animal you wish)."

That has to be something of a record, even for a creationist.  These
lies follow Gabriel around everywhere he goes, like twelve disciples.
But Gabriel implicitly insists that he's God, so that's really quite
hunky-dory.

Gabriel is too much of a Gallus domesticus to even face up to his
lies, so I decided to post them individually, to force him into
addressing them.

We're looking for several things here.

The first is an apology for lying.  I guarantee you we won't get it.
Gabriel isn't into apologies.  He won't even apologize to the
thousands of fellow Christians he religiously insults on a daily
basis.  More on this anon.

Gabriel won't go the extra mile.  He won't give you his coat.  He
actually isn't a Christian.  But then neither was god, and since
Gabriel is God, that's just ducky, isn't it?

The second is that Gabriel will at least face his lies, something he
has fled from doing every time they've been brought to his attention.
I doubt we'll see this either, since in order to face them, he'd have
to remove the plank from his own eye, which he is convinced isn't
there, because he can't see it.  He can't see it, of course, because
there's a massive plank in his eye.

The third is that Gabriel will overcome his chronic cowardice and
actually address his lies.  Even then he won't refute them unless you
consider, as does Gabriel, that chanting "No it isn't!" endlessly,
mindlessly, robotically, is a refutation.

But in Gabriel's favor, he's no different in any of the above than any
other creationist.

Lie #1
1.  "Please show where it's ever been observed"
Here in the very first clause is where Gabriel sets himself up as the
arbiter of what's evolution and what isn't!  He's not a scientist.  He
doesn't even understand science.  He lies about science on a daily
basis, even when that science is done by his fellow Christians.

But he is god so he *does* get to dictate what evolution is!  So he
pretends.

The hell with the real definitions.  The hell with 150 years of solid
science much of which was supplied by his fellow Christians.

No, Gabriel is the only one who can define evolution even though you
can quite literally write volumes on his ignorance of the subject.

He's so pathetically insecure that he wants *his* definition of
evolution from the outset, and the hell with what it really is.  He's
like a kid who will take his ball and go home if we don't all bow down
to the FALSE GOD he's blasphemously made of himself.

Gabriel is going to make up his own bullshit definition in such a way
that the *only* answer he will accept is the one (he thinks) cannot be
supplied.

He's wrong.  His dishonesty has been overcome many times in many ways,
yet he continues to LIE that it hasn't so that he can continue with
his thoroughly dishonest bullshit "challenge", so he can flat out deny
the evidence, insist that no one has met the challenge to *his*
satisfaction, and then claim "See I disproved evolution!"

Guess what?  Gabriel isn't the arbiter of what's evolution and what
isn't.

He has absolutely no qualifications whatsoever on the topic yet he
dishonestly pretends he's more qualified than quite literally
thousands of his fellow Christians who accept evolution based on
multiple lines of evidence including the kind evidence for which he
asks above.

How much more dishonest can you get?  Well, quite a bit, actually,
when you're Gallus Gabriel and you have no integrity, no intellect, no
ability to support a claim or to discuss a subject, and no scruples
whatsoever.

His whole question is dishonest from the ground up and you can see it
here in the first clause before he ever gets to the meat of it.

That's lie #1.  Eleven more are on their way.

Pleasse!!!!   Don't ever answer this idiot!  or as I have seen, "Don't
feed the troll."- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Buddika is not a troll. This person is in a state of hysterics, caused
by facts argued by a person named Gabriel.

Ray
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:03 am    Post subject: Re: The Twelve Lies of Gabriel - Lie #1 Reply with quote

On Jun 4, 10:47 pm, Ray Martinez <pyramid...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Jun 4, 1:22 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:



Here's the single paragraph which evolves into twelve lies!

"Please show where it's ever been observed that populations of [rat]s
have produced, over generations (supposedly via mutations and
accumulation of small changes) animals that are clearly no longer
[rat]s. (And you can replace [rat] with any animal you wish)."

That has to be something of a record, even for a creationist. These
lies follow Gabriel around everywhere he goes, like twelve disciples.
But Gabriel implicitly insists that he's God, so that's really quite
hunky-dory.

Gabriel is too much of a Gallus domesticus to even face up to his
lies, so I decided to post them individually, to force him into
addressing them.

We're looking for several things here.

The first is an apology for lying. I guarantee you we won't get it.
Gabriel isn't into apologies. He won't even apologize to the
thousands of fellow Christians he religiously insults on a daily
basis. More on this anon.

Gabriel won't go the extra mile. He won't give you his coat. He
actually isn't a Christian. But then neither was god, and since
Gabriel is God, that's just ducky, isn't it?

The second is that Gabriel will at least face his lies, something he
has fled from doing every time they've been brought to his attention.
I doubt we'll see this either, since in order to face them, he'd have
to remove the plank from his own eye, which he is convinced isn't
there, because he can't see it. He can't see it, of course, because
there's a massive plank in his eye.

The third is that Gabriel will overcome his chronic cowardice and
actually address his lies. Even then he won't refute them unless you
consider, as does Gabriel, that chanting "No it isn't!" endlessly,
mindlessly, robotically, is a refutation.

But in Gabriel's favor, he's no different in any of the above than any
other creationist.

Lie #1
1. "Please show where it's ever been observed"
Here in the very first clause is where Gabriel sets himself up as the
arbiter of what's evolution and what isn't! He's not a scientist. He
doesn't even understand science. He lies about science on a daily
basis, even when that science is done by his fellow Christians.

But he is god so he *does* get to dictate what evolution is! So he
pretends.

The hell with the real definitions. The hell with 150 years of solid
science much of which was supplied by his fellow Christians.

No, Gabriel is the only one who can define evolution even though you
can quite literally write volumes on his ignorance of the subject.

He's so pathetically insecure that he wants *his* definition of
evolution from the outset, and the hell with what it really is. He's
like a kid who will take his ball and go home if we don't all bow down
to the FALSE GOD he's blasphemously made of himself.

Gabriel is going to make up his own bullshit definition in such a way
that the *only* answer he will accept is the one (he thinks) cannot be
supplied.

He's wrong. His dishonesty has been overcome many times in many ways,
yet he continues to LIE that it hasn't so that he can continue with
his thoroughly dishonest bullshit "challenge", so he can flat out deny
the evidence, insist that no one has met the challenge to *his*
satisfaction, and then claim "See I disproved evolution!"

Guess what? Gabriel isn't the arbiter of what's evolution and what
isn't.

He has absolutely no qualifications whatsoever on the topic yet he
dishonestly pretends he's more qualified than quite literally
thousands of his fellow Christians who accept evolution based on
multiple lines of evidence including the kind evidence for which he
asks above.

How much more dishonest can you get? Well, quite a bit, actually,
when you're Gallus Gabriel and you have no integrity, no intellect, no
ability to support a claim or to discuss a subject, and no scruples
whatsoever.

His whole question is dishonest from the ground up and you can see it
here in the first clause before he ever gets to the meat of it.

That's lie #1. Eleven more are on their way.

Nearly all Atheists are not evolutionists because evolution supports
the Bible or Christianity.

When you get the first *clue* what you're talking about, then I might
think about sending some respect your way but right now you're
completely brain-dead.

Evolution has nothing whatsoever to do with atheism or religion. It's
a simple fact of science.

It does, however, refute the Bible story of creation - a story which
didn't originate in the Bible but was purloined from earlier
civilizations.

Quote:
Nearly all Atheists are evolutionists
because evolution supports their worldview.

There's no world view, and your LIES to the contrary will never change
that. All they'll do is make you a demonstrable LIAR.

We know this, because if you actually *cared* about the truth, you'd
be pointing out the dishonesty of people Like Gabriel, Christ's Love,
Jabriol, McCoy, Bible Bob, Pastor Dave, etc., etc., instead of whining
like a baby.

Quote:
Therefore any Christian
who supports evolution is ignorant, deceived, deluded, or an Atheist
in sheeps clothing.

That's why I recommend visiting Kenneth Miller's web site, of course.
What a pathetic and transparent LIAR you are.

Quote:
How else would one explain "Christians" who support the exact same
origins theory that Richard Dawkins rabidly supports?

Oh he supports it rabidly, does he, but your utterly asinine diatribe
here isn't rabid at all? Talk about hysterical. LoL! You're
pathetic and not worth any more attention than this.

Budikka
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:23 am    Post subject: Re: The Twelve Lies of Gabriel - Lie #1 Reply with quote

SkyEyes wrote:
Quote:
On Jun 4, 4:12 pm, meg <ekrub...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 4, 1:22 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:





Here's the single paragraph which evolves into twelve lies!
"Please show where it's ever been observed that populations of [rat]s
have produced, over generations (supposedly via mutations and
accumulation of small changes) animals that are clearly no longer
[rat]s. (And you can replace [rat] with any animal you wish)."
That has to be something of a record, even for a creationist. These
lies follow Gabriel around everywhere he goes, like twelve disciples.
But Gabriel implicitly insists that he's God, so that's really quite
hunky-dory.
Gabriel is too much of a Gallus domesticus to even face up to his
lies, so I decided to post them individually, to force him into
addressing them.
We're looking for several things here.
The first is an apology for lying. I guarantee you we won't get it.
Gabriel isn't into apologies. He won't even apologize to the
thousands of fellow Christians he religiously insults on a daily
basis. More on this anon.
Gabriel won't go the extra mile. He won't give you his coat. He
actually isn't a Christian. But then neither was god, and since
Gabriel is God, that's just ducky, isn't it?
The second is that Gabriel will at least face his lies, something he
has fled from doing every time they've been brought to his attention.
I doubt we'll see this either, since in order to face them, he'd have
to remove the plank from his own eye, which he is convinced isn't
there, because he can't see it. He can't see it, of course, because
there's a massive plank in his eye.
The third is that Gabriel will overcome his chronic cowardice and
actually address his lies. Even then he won't refute them unless you
consider, as does Gabriel, that chanting "No it isn't!" endlessly,
mindlessly, robotically, is a refutation.
But in Gabriel's favor, he's no different in any of the above than any
other creationist.
Lie #1
1. "Please show where it's ever been observed"
Here in the very first clause is where Gabriel sets himself up as the
arbiter of what's evolution and what isn't! He's not a scientist. He
doesn't even understand science. He lies about science on a daily
basis, even when that science is done by his fellow Christians.
But he is god so he *does* get to dictate what evolution is! So he
pretends.
The hell with the real definitions. The hell with 150 years of solid
science much of which was supplied by his fellow Christians.
No, Gabriel is the only one who can define evolution even though you
can quite literally write volumes on his ignorance of the subject.
He's so pathetically insecure that he wants *his* definition of
evolution from the outset, and the hell with what it really is. He's
like a kid who will take his ball and go home if we don't all bow down
to the FALSE GOD he's blasphemously made of himself.
Gabriel is going to make up his own bullshit definition in such a way
that the *only* answer he will accept is the one (he thinks) cannot be
supplied.
He's wrong. His dishonesty has been overcome many times in many ways,
yet he continues to LIE that it hasn't so that he can continue with
his thoroughly dishonest bullshit "challenge", so he can flat out deny
the evidence, insist that no one has met the challenge to *his*
satisfaction, and then claim "See I disproved evolution!"
Guess what? Gabriel isn't the arbiter of what's evolution and what
isn't.
He has absolutely no qualifications whatsoever on the topic yet he
dishonestly pretends he's more qualified than quite literally
thousands of his fellow Christians who accept evolution based on
multiple lines of evidence including the kind evidence for which he
asks above.
How much more dishonest can you get? Well, quite a bit, actually,
when you're Gallus Gabriel and you have no integrity, no intellect, no
ability to support a claim or to discuss a subject, and no scruples
whatsoever.
His whole question is dishonest from the ground up and you can see it
here in the first clause before he ever gets to the meat of it.
That's lie #1. Eleven more are on their way.
Pleasse!!!! Don't ever answer this idiot! or as I have seen, "Don't
feed the troll."

Buddika666 is *hardly* a troll, sugarpants. Buddika666 has been in
alt.atheism longer than *I* have and I got here in 1995.

Ah, sorry. I think you are wrong.

Hehe... Not about Buddika666, but at whom that was addressed...

I think he meant Gabriel. That HE is the troll. I would be very
surprised if it was any other way.

Quote:

No, unfortunately for you, Buddika666 is a sharp, well-educated,
fearless educator of funnymentalist idiots, revealer of Those Who Lie,
and alt.atheism regular.

Hm.... must pay more attention to him, then. Didn't encounter him in
direct "conflict", so to speak, yet. Heck, I don't even know there COULD
be a conflict. Noticed the name, of course. But our interests seem to
differ slightly.

Quote:

Be afraid. Be *very* afraid.

Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
BAAWA Knight
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net

I seem to remember we encountered each other before, did we not?

I distinctly remember that sig. How do you "herd" cats, anyway? From my
experience, THEY herd YOU. You don't OWN a cat. You LIVE with one. Well.
That might be just me. But I am not sure the cats know this..... ;-)


Tokay





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In weightlifting, I don't think sudden, uncontrolled urination should
automatically disqualify you.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:35 am    Post subject: Re: The Twelve Lies of Gabriel - Lie #1 Reply with quote

On 5 Jun, 05:47, Ray Martinez <pyramid...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Jun 4, 1:22 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:





Here's the single paragraph which evolves into twelve lies!

"Please show where it's ever been observed that populations of [rat]s
have produced, over generations (supposedly via mutations and
accumulation of small changes) animals that are clearly no longer
[rat]s. (And you can replace [rat] with any animal you wish)."

That has to be something of a record, even for a creationist.  These
lies follow Gabriel around everywhere he goes, like twelve disciples.
But Gabriel implicitly insists that he's God, so that's really quite
hunky-dory.

Gabriel is too much of a Gallus domesticus to even face up to his
lies, so I decided to post them individually, to force him into
addressing them.

We're looking for several things here.

The first is an apology for lying.  I guarantee you we won't get it.
Gabriel isn't into apologies.  He won't even apologize to the
thousands of fellow Christians he religiously insults on a daily
basis.  More on this anon.

Gabriel won't go the extra mile.  He won't give you his coat.  He
actually isn't a Christian.  But then neither was god, and since
Gabriel is God, that's just ducky, isn't it?

The second is that Gabriel will at least face his lies, something he
has fled from doing every time they've been brought to his attention.
I doubt we'll see this either, since in order to face them, he'd have
to remove the plank from his own eye, which he is convinced isn't
there, because he can't see it.  He can't see it, of course, because
there's a massive plank in his eye.

The third is that Gabriel will overcome his chronic cowardice and
actually address his lies.  Even then he won't refute them unless you
consider, as does Gabriel, that chanting "No it isn't!" endlessly,
mindlessly, robotically, is a refutation.

But in Gabriel's favor, he's no different in any of the above than any
other creationist.

Lie #1
1.  "Please show where it's ever been observed"
Here in the very first clause is where Gabriel sets himself up as the
arbiter of what's evolution and what isn't!  He's not a scientist.  He
doesn't even understand science.  He lies about science on a daily
basis, even when that science is done by his fellow Christians.

But he is god so he *does* get to dictate what evolution is!  So he
pretends.

The hell with the real definitions.  The hell with 150 years of solid
science much of which was supplied by his fellow Christians.

No, Gabriel is the only one who can define evolution even though you
can quite literally write volumes on his ignorance of the subject.

He's so pathetically insecure that he wants *his* definition of
evolution from the outset, and the hell with what it really is.  He's
like a kid who will take his ball and go home if we don't all bow down
to the FALSE GOD he's blasphemously made of himself.

Gabriel is going to make up his own bullshit definition in such a way
that the *only* answer he will accept is the one (he thinks) cannot be
supplied.

He's wrong.  His dishonesty has been overcome many times in many ways,
yet he continues to LIE that it hasn't so that he can continue with
his thoroughly dishonest bullshit "challenge", so he can flat out deny
the evidence, insist that no one has met the challenge to *his*
satisfaction, and then claim "See I disproved evolution!"

Guess what?  Gabriel isn't the arbiter of what's evolution and what
isn't.

He has absolutely no qualifications whatsoever on the topic yet he
dishonestly pretends he's more qualified than quite literally
thousands of his fellow Christians who accept evolution based on
multiple lines of evidence including the kind evidence for which he
asks above.

How much more dishonest can you get?  Well, quite a bit, actually,
when you're Gallus Gabriel and you have no integrity, no intellect, no
ability to support a claim or to discuss a subject, and no scruples
whatsoever.

His whole question is dishonest from the ground up and you can see it
here in the first clause before he ever gets to the meat of it.

That's lie #1.  Eleven more are on their way.

Nearly all Atheists are not evolutionists because evolution supports
the Bible or Christianity. Nearly all Atheists are evolutionists
because evolution supports their worldview. Therefore any Christian
who supports evolution is ignorant, deceived, deluded, or an Atheist
in sheeps clothing.

That therefore does not follow from the premise.
But then logic and Ray are total strangers.

Quote:

How else would one explain "Christians" who support the exact same
origins theory that Richard Dawkins rabidly supports? Of course
Dawkins is a real Atheist.

Hint: they both support the heliocentric theory as well; go figure.

Wombat

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:45 am    Post subject: Re: The Twelve Lies of Gabriel - Lie #1 Reply with quote

On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 00:20:26 +0000 (UTC), cary@afone.as.arizona.edu
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:

Quote:
Pleasse!!!! =A0 Don't ever answer this idiot! =A0or as I have seen, "Don't=
feed the troll."

Buddika666 is *hardly* a troll, sugarpants. Buddika666 has been in
alt.atheism longer than *I* have and I got here in 1995.

Newbie.

Quote:
No, unfortunately for you, Buddika666 is a sharp, well-educated,
fearless educator of funnymentalist idiots, revealer of Those Who Lie,
and alt.atheism regular.

Heh. It's like Duke's frequent, jaw-dropping, claims that he's smarter
than Buddika.

Apropos of Duke, I once pointed Buddika to a fairly well-known study
which demonstrated that, to put it as non-technically as possible,
stupid people often cannot perceive that they are stupid.

Thomas Twp Too: This is my brother, Thomas Twp, and I am Thomas Twp
Too.

Thomas Twp: We've no learning, and most people say we're twp.
But we're not so twp as to not know that
we're twp.

[it's a Welsh word meaning stupid]

From the Englishman Who Went Up A Hill But Came Down A Mountain. A
wonderful movie with a lot of very subtle humour.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:02 am    Post subject: Re: The Twelve Lies of Gabriel - Lie #1 Reply with quote

"SkyEyes" <skyeyes9@cox.net> wrote in message
news:76c1a0e7-f89a-4f43-8c13-a271e6a56010@f24g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 4, 4:12 pm, meg <ekrub...@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Jun 4, 1:22 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:





Here's the single paragraph which evolves into twelve lies!

"Please show where it's ever been observed that populations of [rat]s
have produced, over generations (supposedly via mutations and
accumulation of small changes) animals that are clearly no longer
[rat]s. (And you can replace [rat] with any animal you wish)."

That has to be something of a record, even for a creationist. These
lies follow Gabriel around everywhere he goes, like twelve disciples.
But Gabriel implicitly insists that he's God, so that's really quite
hunky-dory.

Gabriel is too much of a Gallus domesticus to even face up to his
lies, so I decided to post them individually, to force him into
addressing them.

We're looking for several things here.

The first is an apology for lying. I guarantee you we won't get it.
Gabriel isn't into apologies. He won't even apologize to the
thousands of fellow Christians he religiously insults on a daily
basis. More on this anon.

Gabriel won't go the extra mile. He won't give you his coat. He
actually isn't a Christian. But then neither was god, and since
Gabriel is God, that's just ducky, isn't it?

The second is that Gabriel will at least face his lies, something he
has fled from doing every time they've been brought to his attention.
I doubt we'll see this either, since in order to face them, he'd have
to remove the plank from his own eye, which he is convinced isn't
there, because he can't see it. He can't see it, of course, because
there's a massive plank in his eye.

The third is that Gabriel will overcome his chronic cowardice and
actually address his lies. Even then he won't refute them unless you
consider, as does Gabriel, that chanting "No it isn't!" endlessly,
mindlessly, robotically, is a refutation.

But in Gabriel's favor, he's no different in any of the above than any
other creationist.

Lie #1
1. "Please show where it's ever been observed"
Here in the very first clause is where Gabriel sets himself up as the
arbiter of what's evolution and what isn't! He's not a scientist. He
doesn't even understand science. He lies about science on a daily
basis, even when that science is done by his fellow Christians.

But he is god so he *does* get to dictate what evolution is! So he
pretends.

The hell with the real definitions. The hell with 150 years of solid
science much of which was supplied by his fellow Christians.

No, Gabriel is the only one who can define evolution even though you
can quite literally write volumes on his ignorance of the subject.

He's so pathetically insecure that he wants *his* definition of
evolution from the outset, and the hell with what it really is. He's
like a kid who will take his ball and go home if we don't all bow down
to the FALSE GOD he's blasphemously made of himself.

Gabriel is going to make up his own bullshit definition in such a way
that the *only* answer he will accept is the one (he thinks) cannot be
supplied.

He's wrong. His dishonesty has been overcome many times in many ways,
yet he continues to LIE that it hasn't so that he can continue with
his thoroughly dishonest bullshit "challenge", so he can flat out deny
the evidence, insist that no one has met the challenge to *his*
satisfaction, and then claim "See I disproved evolution!"

Guess what? Gabriel isn't the arbiter of what's evolution and what
isn't.

He has absolutely no qualifications whatsoever on the topic yet he
dishonestly pretends he's more qualified than quite literally
thousands of his fellow Christians who accept evolution based on
multiple lines of evidence including the kind evidence for which he
asks above.

How much more dishonest can you get? Well, quite a bit, actually,
when you're Gallus Gabriel and you have no integrity, no intellect, no
ability to support a claim or to discuss a subject, and no scruples
whatsoever.

His whole question is dishonest from the ground up and you can see it
here in the first clause before he ever gets to the meat of it.

That's lie #1. Eleven more are on their way.

Pleasse!!!! Don't ever answer this idiot! or as I have seen, "Don't
feed the troll."

Buddika666 is *hardly* a troll, sugarpants. Buddika666 has been in
alt.atheism longer than *I* have and I got here in 1995.

No, unfortunately for you, Buddika666 is a sharp, well-educated,
fearless educator of funnymentalist idiots, revealer of Those Who Lie,
and alt.atheism regular.

Be afraid. Be *very* afraid.
-----------------------------------------------------

I think Meg was referring to Gabriel as the troll and warning Budikka not to
feed him.
There was no need, as Budikka can 'handle herself' in a fight.

Smiler,
The godless one
a.a.# 2279
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:02 am    Post subject: Re: The Twelve Lies of Gabriel - Lie #1 Reply with quote

Ray Martinez wrote:

Quote:
Nearly all Atheists are not evolutionists because evolution supports
the Bible or Christianity. Nearly all Atheists are evolutionists
because evolution supports their worldview. Therefore any Christian
who supports evolution is ignorant, deceived, deluded, or an Atheist
in sheeps clothing.

Rum, whiskey, gin, tequila or vodka? Or all of them?

Quote:
How else would one explain "Christians" who support the exact same
origins theory that Richard Dawkins rabidly supports?

Cognitive dissonance.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:02 am    Post subject: Re: The Twelve Lies of Gabriel - Lie #1 Reply with quote

On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 04:02:34 +0100, "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com>
wrote:

Quote:

"SkyEyes" <skyeyes9@cox.net> wrote in message
news:76c1a0e7-f89a-4f43-8c13-a271e6a56010@f24g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 4, 4:12 pm, meg <ekrub...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 4, 1:22 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:





Here's the single paragraph which evolves into twelve lies!

"Please show where it's ever been observed that populations of [rat]s
have produced, over generations (supposedly via mutatio