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John Baker
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 Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:35 am Post subject: Re: Atheists want to debate? Bring it on! |
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On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:08:44 -0400, "Jack" <furgfurgfurg@yahoo.com>
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"Paul Ransom Erickson" <prerickson@comcast.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 14 May 2008 00:06:33 GMT, Christ's Love
christsagape@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Tue, 13 May 2008 02:26:33 GMT, FRice@SkepticTank.Org (Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:
Still voting Republican? You're a traitor.
Still voting Democrat? You're likely going to Hell.
This is a threat of hell not only for people who do not believe in
Christianity, but even for those who do not believe in republicanism.
If you don't believe in Christianity, where do you think all the churches
came from?
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Oh, I believe in Christianity, all right. How could I not? I have to
deal with nonsense from its adherents on a regular basis. What I
*don't* believe is the superstitious crock of shit Christianity is
trying to sell.
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Dubh Ghall
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:03 am Post subject: Re: Atheists want to debate? Bring it on! |
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On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:08:44 -0400, "Jack" <furgfurgfurg@yahoo.com> wrote:
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"Paul Ransom Erickson" <prerickson@comcast.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 14 May 2008 00:06:33 GMT, Christ's Love
christsagape@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Tue, 13 May 2008 02:26:33 GMT, FRice@SkepticTank.Org (Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:
Still voting Republican? You're a traitor.
Still voting Democrat? You're likely going to Hell.
This is a threat of hell not only for people who do not believe in
Christianity, but even for those who do not believe in republicanism.
If you don't believe in Christianity, where do you think all the churches
came from?
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Not exactly an intellectual heavy weight; Are you? |
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Codebreaker
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:50 pm Post subject: Re: Atheists want to debate? Bring it on! |
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On May 8, 5:04 am, John Baker <nu...@bizniz.net> wrote:
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On Thu, 08 May 2008 08:56:31 GMT, Christ's Love
christsag...@yahoo.com> wrote:
So you *like* having your lies exposed and your ass handed to you on a
platter, do you?
Rom.8.31 "What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us,
who can be against us?"
"But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give
an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in
you" I Peter 3:15
Always remember: Creationists are ignorant, lying, delusional morons.- Hide quoted text -
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There is no lie about Jesus-Christ, it is you, USELESS ASSHOLES,
who missed the point... FUCK YOU ALL |
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Cary Kittrell
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:54 pm Post subject: Re: Atheists want to debate? Bring it on! |
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In article <18af744f-fd14-4d19-afa6-ded4a04c9c0e@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com> Codebreaker <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> writes:
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On May 8, 5:04=A0am, John Baker <nu...@bizniz.net> wrote:
On Thu, 08 May 2008 08:56:31 GMT, Christ's Love
christsag...@yahoo.com> wrote:
So you *like* having your lies exposed and your ass handed to you on a
platter, do you?
Rom.8.31 "What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us,
who can be against us?"
"But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give
an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in
you" =A0I Peter 3:15
Always remember: Creationists are ignorant, lying, delusional morons.- H=
ide quoted text -
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There is no lie about Jesus-Christ, it is you, USELESS ASSHOLES,
who missed the point... FUCK YOU ALL
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Snoozing library patrons abruptly jerk upright, startled.
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Darra MacPiarais
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| Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 12:36 am Post subject: Re: Atheists want to debate? Bring it on! |
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In alt.atheism Christ's Love <christsagape@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Rom.8.31 "What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us,
who can be against us?"
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Then why so many dishonest tactics?
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"But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give
an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in
you" I Peter 3:15
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Why do you believe your god created the entire cosmos but only this
planet has life?
If this planet is not the only one that has life, then do the other
planets suffer from Original Sin if it only happened here? And, if so,
why?
If Original Sin happened all over and not just here, then would you
consider that to be a sign that the god you believe created the universe
is fallible?
If Original Sin happened _at all_, do you not consider that to be a sign
that the god you believed created the universe is fallible?
If you do not believe that Original Sin makes your god fallible, then do
you agree that imperfection was an intentional aspect of the creation?
If not, then please explain how it could not have been an intentional
aspect of creation.
Why do you worship your god? If in anything above you agree that your
god is fallible, then do you worship it solely because it's more
powerful then you; i.e., out of fear of punishment? And, if so, would
you consider that "love"?
I look forward to hearing your answer, which you promised above.
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Always remember: Christ loves you, and so do I! Each and every one of you!
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I'd like to see a definition of "love" in this context, given the above
questions posed.
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Is mise le meas,
Darra MacPiarais <deathpiper@baawa.org> -- alt.atheism #1142
Death Pipers Of The BAAWA
I use my shields for defense and my pipes for offense!
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Jack
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| Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:24 am Post subject: Re: Atheists want to debate? Bring it on! |
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"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:g40e8d$kqo$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
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In article
1976cb5e-6925-4a1e-bb65-abf708607efd@u6g2000prc.googlegroups.com
eyelessgame <aamp@surewest.net> writes:
On Jun 25, 4:48=A0pm, c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
In article <g3ukns$tos$0...@news.t-online.com> Tokay Pino Gris
tokay.gri=
s.b...@gmx.net> writes:
Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article
7dde9f8a-b5e9-4ef8-8b83-dee15df1e...@m36g2000hse.googlegr=
oups.com> SkyEyes <skyey...@cox.net> writes:
On Jun 25, 2:08=3DA0pm, "Jack" <furgfurgf...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Paul Ransom Erickson" <prerick...@comcast.com> wrote in
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s:jfi3=3D
64hccodkr0j7tkhcl28qoucqvfq...@4ax.com...> On Wed, 14 May 2008
00:06=
:33 GMT=3D
, Christ's Love
christsag...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Tue, 13 May 2008 02:26:33 GMT, FR...@SkepticTank.Org
(Fredric =
L.
Rice) wrote:
Still voting Republican? =3DA0You're a traitor.
Still voting Democrat? You're likely going to Hell.
This is a threat of hell not only for people who do not believe
in
Christianity, but even for those who do not believe in
republicani=
sm.
If you don't believe in Christianity, where do you think all the
ch=
urches
came from?
Using the phrase "believe in" is highly confusing. =A0When some
peop=
le
use it they mean "follow the precepts of" or "choose to
participate
in"; others mean "know it exists."
Nobody is disputing the christianity exists. =A0I believe
christiani=
ty
exists, I just decline to participate in it because I believe that
i=
ts
core beliefs are fiction. =A0So I could say that while I believe
in
christianity, I don't believe in christianity. =A0Put on your
thinki=
ng
cap and see if you can see the difference.
Is this the same "Jack" who was ADDRESSING US AS THE VOICE OF
GOD FOR A WHILE? =A0
If so, he's a troll pure and simple.
Na.... He was a Loki.
=A0 And, oddly enough, once
I realized that, I sort of enjoyed his trolling. =A0He was
just having silly fun -- as trolls go, the AntiJYoung.
The way I read it, he had fun.
he's not a troll... he's a Loki. He's actually making fun of those
idio=
ts.
That's waaaay different from a troll.
Tokay
Ooookay: using small words and, possibly, pictures, explain to
me what a Loki is? =A0
(I've asked this before, but apparently the answer didn't stick)
'k. You got yer basic community. They hold opinions or positions on
some issues. Some community members respectfully disagree with some
of that, and discuss it with varying degrees of civility, but the
purpose of "real" discussion is actually to learn things from each
other.
Then you got yer garden variety troll. Trolls come into the community
with an opinion or position they know is unpopular or controversial,
intending to stir people up and cause argument, as opposed to learn or
teach something.
And then we come to the Loki troll. Loki trolls start out acting
pretty much like regular trolls, except the position a Loki troll is
taking (for the purpose of stirring people up) is one he doesn't
actually believe.
Some Loki trolls are secretly sockpuppets of existing members of the
community, out for a lark.
Usually the Loki troll will, on purpose or not, leave little hints
that he's not really serious, for example by going just a bit over the
top into parody or camp. Part of the game of a Loki troll is figuring
out that that's what you are dealing with. It's made pretty damn hard
when the real trolls are so stupid that they sound like parodies of
themselves to begin with.
Ah. Got it. Well said, thank you.
And yes, I agree: `Jack' is a Loki.
-- cary
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Dubh Ghall
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| Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:22 am Post subject: Re: Atheists want to debate? Bring it on! |
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On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 08:55:58 -0400, "Jack" <furgfurgfurg@yahoo.com> wrote:
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"Dubh Ghall" <puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote in message
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On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:08:44 -0400, "Jack" <furgfurgfurg@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Paul Ransom Erickson" <prerickson@comcast.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 14 May 2008 00:06:33 GMT, Christ's Love
christsagape@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Tue, 13 May 2008 02:26:33 GMT, FRice@SkepticTank.Org (Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:
Still voting Republican? You're a traitor.
Still voting Democrat? You're likely going to Hell.
This is a threat of hell not only for people who do not believe in
Christianity, but even for those who do not believe in republicanism.
If you don't believe in Christianity, where do you think all the churches
came from?
Not exactly an intellectual heavy weight; Are you?
No.
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You do know that I just hate it when people use my own tricks against me: Don't you? ( |
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Douglas Berry
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| Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:37 am Post subject: Re: Atheists want to debate? Bring it on! |
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On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 08:53:12 -0400 "Jack" <furgfurgfurg@yahoo.com>
carved the following into the hard stone of alt.atheism
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I don't know what I am. I'm still working that out.
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Have you considered the you might be a speed bump? Go lie down in a
busy roadway and see if it feels right for you.
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Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein |
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Hephaestus
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| Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:56 am Post subject: Re: Atheists want to debate? Bring it on! |
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On May 12, 10:49 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
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On Mon, 12 May 2008 20:43:39 -0700 (PDT), beelzebub
yank_ees_s...@yahoo.com> wrote:
In my experience, most atheists (in this ng anyway) are incapable of
debate. Their dogma rivals or exceeds that of most theists, and even
the most brainwashed cults like Scientology. Try to cut through it is
like trying to have an intelligent conversation with Tom Cruise....
Why do you lie to us? I realize that you, the lord of the flies, are one
of Satan's minions, but we don't believe in devils any more than we
believe in any other gods.
Now, tell us exactly what dogma you claim exists. I'm sure we can help
you correct your mistaken impression.
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you been trolled, and you're arrogant. |
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Hephaestus
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| Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:59 am Post subject: Re: Atheists want to debate? Bring it on! |
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On May 13, 7:19 pm, Kim Palmer <yduzitmat...@cogeco.ca> wrote:
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Christ's Love wrote:
On Tue, 13 May 2008 02:26:33 GMT, FR...@SkepticTank.Org (Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:
Still voting Republican? You're a traitor.
Still voting Democrat? You're likely going to Hell.
Always remember: Christ loves you, and so do I! Each and every one of you!
What is there to debate? You choose to believe something that has no
proof. Faith is believing in something that you cannot prove.
I choose to not believe in it - and I have studied christianity up close
and personally - and have chosen to not believe.
SO there you have it - one chooses to believe on does not. I do not care
what you believe or don't - your choice entirely.
I choose not to believe and ask that you accept that and leave me alone
-I really do not need to hear all about it - and how wonderful it is to
believe - been there done that and found it sadly lacking.
So do us a favour and leave us alone. That is all I ask. Really.
Kim P
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Stop cross-posting dammit, I was reading for several minutes before I
realized it has nothing to with the clams. |
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Hephaestus
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| Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:09 am Post subject: Re: Atheists want to debate? Bring it on! |
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On Jun 26, 9:37 pm, Douglas Berry <penguin_...@mindOBVIOUSspring.com>
wrote:
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On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 08:53:12 -0400 "Jack" <furgfurgf...@yahoo.com
carved the following into the hard stone of alt.atheism
I don't know what I am. I'm still working that out.
Have you considered the you might be a speed bump? Go lie down in a
busy roadway and see if it feels right for you.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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John Baker
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| Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:11 am Post subject: Re: Atheists want to debate? Bring it on! |
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On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 06:58:15 -0700 (PDT), Wombat <trigby@multiweb.nl>
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On 26 Jun, 05:30, John Baker <nu...@bizniz.net> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 20:37:57 -0400, Cory Albrecht
coryalbre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Paul Ransom Erickson wrote:
On Sat, 10 May 2008 06:02:14 GMT, Christ's Love
christsag...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Always remember: Christ loves you, and so do I! Each and every one of you!
You know, it's a little ironic for someone who decides to identify as
"Christ's Love" to use such a childish response.
You do realize that you are responding to posts over a month old?
Christ's Love as mysteriously disappeared and has not posted in here in
a while.
He got his butt handed to him over in alt.atheism, and is no doubt off
licking his wounds somewhere.
Those threads were cross posted to alt.talk.creationism as well.
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For the most part they were, but there are several regulars in a.a who
make it a point to trim all crossposts.
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Wombat
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| Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 6:50 am Post subject: Re: Atheists want to debate? Bring it on! |
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On 28 Jun, 05:11, John Baker <nu...@bizniz.net> wrote:
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On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 06:58:15 -0700 (PDT), Wombat <tri...@multiweb.nl
wrote:
On 26 Jun, 05:30, John Baker <nu...@bizniz.net> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 20:37:57 -0400, Cory Albrecht
coryalbre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Paul Ransom Erickson wrote:
On Sat, 10 May 2008 06:02:14 GMT, Christ's Love
christsag...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Always remember: Christ loves you, and so do I! Each and every one of you!
You know, it's a little ironic for someone who decides to identify as
"Christ's Love" to use such a childish response.
You do realize that you are responding to posts over a month old?
Christ's Love as mysteriously disappeared and has not posted in here in
a while.
He got his butt handed to him over in alt.atheism, and is no doubt off
licking his wounds somewhere.
Those threads were cross posted to alt.talk.creationism as well.
For the most part they were, but there are several regulars in a.a who
make it a point to trim all crossposts.
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Sorry, I didn't know that. Shame I missed the fun.
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Darra MacPiarais
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:05 pm Post subject: Re: Atheists want to debate? Bring it on! |
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In alt.atheism Darra MacPiarais <deathpiper@baawa.org> wrote:
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In alt.atheism Christ's Love <christsagape@yahoo.com> wrote:
Rom.8.31 "What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us,
who can be against us?"
Then why so many dishonest tactics?
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No answer either?
--
Is mise le meas,
Darra MacPiarais <deathpiper@baawa.org> -- alt.atheism #1142
Death Pipers Of The BAAWA
I use my shields for defense and my pipes for offense!
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