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what good is a sense of humor?

 
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RichD
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:02 am    Post subject: what good is a sense of humor? Reply with quote

What use, evolutionarily, is humor?

The biological imperative is survive and procreate;
eat, and don't get eaten. What advantage does
laughter or mirth offer? Why would this trait be selected?

I think this proves Darwin was wrong and God exists.

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Rich
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:02 am    Post subject: Re: what good is a sense of humor? Reply with quote

RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1185784277.829578.156860
@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

Quote:
What use, evolutionarily, is humor?

The biological imperative is survive and procreate;
eat, and don't get eaten. What advantage does
laughter or mirth offer? Why would this trait be selected?

I think this proves Darwin was wrong and God exists.

--
Rich


Why do you assume that the biological imperative is the most important
aspect in the life of a creature with a brain capable of non-instinct
reations?


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My atheism, like that of Spinoza, is true piety towards the universe
and denies only gods fashioned by men in their own image,
to be servants of their human interests.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 7:23 pm    Post subject: Re: what good is a sense of humor? Reply with quote

In alt.atheism On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 08:31:17 -0000, RichD
<r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> let us all know that:

Quote:
What use, evolutionarily, is humor?

Does it have to have one.

Quote:
I think this proves Darwin was wrong and God exists.

Only if you like non sequiturs.


Don
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:48 pm    Post subject: Re: what good is a sense of humor? Reply with quote

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 08:31:17 -0000, RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Quote:
What use, evolutionarily, is humor?

The biological imperative is survive and procreate;
eat, and don't get eaten. What advantage does
laughter or mirth offer? Why would this trait be selected?

Being able to make a woman laugh has offered me countless
opportunities for procreation, or at least the activity that causes
it.

Quote:
I think this proves Darwin was wrong and God exists.

And you'd be wrong.
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Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:21 am    Post subject: Re: what good is a sense of humor? Reply with quote

RichD wrote:
Quote:
What use, evolutionarily, is humor?

The biological imperative is survive and procreate;
eat, and don't get eaten. What advantage does
laughter or mirth offer? Why would this trait be selected?

Having fun, laughing, being with friends - are all positive experiences
that make life worth living.

Quote:

I think this proves Darwin was wrong and God exists.


That's because you think some "next" life is what is worth living.


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#2011
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:47 am    Post subject: Re: what good is a sense of humor? Reply with quote

On Jul 30, 1:31 am, RichD <r_delaney2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
What use, evolutionarily, is humor?

The biological imperative is survive and procreate;
eat, and don't get eaten. What advantage does
laughter or mirth offer? Why would this trait be selected?

Humour is a survival trait in human societies. Your survival depends
on the ability of others to laugh at you.

Have you never seen young members of other species play? It may be
training for hunting when they become older, but one of the obvious
traits of play is that it is enjoyable. Have you never owned a dog or
a cat? They even enjoy playing with members of different species!
Jesus Fucking Christ, can't you people put two and two together? Here,
let me do the addition for you. Humour is pleasurable, and so is play!
If other animals engage in play, then clearly humour is related.

I think humour has EVOLVED from play. Humour is mostly language based.
So an animal has to be intelligent enough with evolved vocal cords to
facilitate language in order to even be capable of humour. I guess
that leaves only humans, and some of the other smarter mammals, and
also explains why a lot of religious people are so lacking in a sense
of humour. They're not intelligent enough.

Let's go further back in evolution than play, since as far as I can
tell, only mammals play. Holy Fuck! Sex is pleasurable too! MAYBE
pleasure can be traced back to the physical sensation of sex, or
reproduction, since all life reproduces, and the only reason for most
individuals to have sex is because of the pleasure. Most creatures
have no idea that the sex leads even leads to reproduction, yet they
do it anyway. In fact, the only creatures in the animal kingdom that
only have sex for procreation is religious fundamentalists, which
makes THEM (you) the aberration. Of course, it's hard to tell, because
even though they advocate sex for prcreation, there sure are a lot of
them porking altar boys, screwing church secrataries, hiring crack
dealing male hookers, and the like. It almost makes you think they're
only saying this so that they can diddle the mates of the dolts (you?)
who are dumb enough to be suckered in by their bullshit in the first
place.

Quote:
I think this proves Darwin was wrong and God exists.

You think you've just proved God exists by showing how much
comprehension you lack? What a dumb fucking conclusion.

To prove God exists please come up with DIRECT evidence. Proving a
scientific theory wrong (which you havn't done anyway) is no proof of
God, because there may be a different scientific theory that is the
right explanation. Why do you idiots think that the correct answer to
every unknown is God? AGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 6:13 am    Post subject: Re: what good is a sense of humor? Reply with quote

"RichD" <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1185784277.829578.156860@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
What use, evolutionarily, is humor?

The biological imperative is survive and procreate;
eat, and don't get eaten. What advantage does
laughter or mirth offer? Why would this trait be selected?

I think this proves Darwin was wrong and God exists.

How? What is the connection? A sense of humor
is probably one of the ways people get along with
each other and keep the peace. That would work
very well toward survival.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 7:09 am    Post subject: Re: what good is a sense of humor? Reply with quote

On Jul 30, 6:31 pm, RichD <r_delaney2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
What use, evolutionarily, is humor?

The biological imperative is survive and procreate;
eat, and don't get eaten. What advantage does
laughter or mirth offer? Why would this trait be selected?



Humor is very useful for a social animal with sophisticated
comunication.
It helps avoid disputes - but most importantly it is a way of "showing
off" like a peacocks tail.
To make jokes requires skills and smarts - the opposite sex is
atracted to skills and smarts - your offspring tends to have language
skills and smarts.

Quote:
I think this proves Darwin was wrong and God exists.

That's OK.

Everyone is wrong once in a while.
As long as you learn - that's the important thing.

Mark.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:12 am    Post subject: Re: what good is a sense of humor? Reply with quote

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 08:31:17 -0000, RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com>
spake thusly:

Quote:
What use, evolutionarily, is humor?

The biological imperative is survive and procreate;
eat, and don't get eaten. What advantage does
laughter or mirth offer? Why would this trait be selected?

I think this proves Darwin was wrong and God exists.

I smell a really crappy troll but I'll bite anyways.

Some time in the distant past, our species discovered that remaining
in a group greatly enhanced chances for survival because humans are
not very well equipped physically for surviving in the jungle.
Personal interaction among the individuals helped create a bond that
united the group into a relatively cohesive unit. Things like humor
and the natural need for a moral base helped keep the group stable.
Plus, laughing has been medically shown to be very therapeutic, a
natural release valve.

But I suspect that I am wasting my time.

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jbuchy@hotmail.com
(Jim, daddy to Lesleigh [Autistic] 04/20/94)

"With God, all atrocities are acceptable and embraced"

Please note: All unsolicited e-mail sent to me may, at
my discretion, be posted in this newsgroup verbatim.
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William Wingstedt
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:48 am    Post subject: Re: what good is a sense of humor? Reply with quote

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 08:31:17 -0000, RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Quote:
What use, evolutionarily, is humor?

The biological imperative is survive and procreate;
eat, and don't get eaten. What advantage does
laughter or mirth offer? Why would this trait be selected?

Surviving, procreating and not getting eaten is so much more
pleasurable when done with a smile. One tends to engage more readily
in activities that are pleasurable.

Quote:

I think this proves Darwin was wrong and God exists.

Ha! That's hilarious!

Quote:

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Rich
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Michael Gray
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:49 am    Post subject: Re: what good is a sense of humor? Reply with quote

On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 02:48:26 GMT, William_Wingstedt@comcast.net
(William Wingstedt) wrote:

Quote:
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 08:31:17 -0000, RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com
wrote:

What use, evolutionarily, is humor?

The biological imperative is survive and procreate;
eat, and don't get eaten. What advantage does
laughter or mirth offer? Why would this trait be selected?

Surviving, procreating and not getting eaten is so much more
pleasurable when done with a smile. One tends to engage more readily
in activities that are pleasurable.

It certainly helps when being hunted down by Hyena...

:
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Mike Painter
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 10:58 am    Post subject: Re: what good is a sense of humor? Reply with quote

Michael Gray wrote:
Quote:
On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 02:48:26 GMT, William_Wingstedt@comcast.net
(William Wingstedt) wrote:

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 08:31:17 -0000, RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com
wrote:

What use, evolutionarily, is humor?

The biological imperative is survive and procreate;
eat, and don't get eaten. What advantage does
laughter or mirth offer? Why would this trait be selected?

Surviving, procreating and not getting eaten is so much more
pleasurable when done with a smile. One tends to engage more readily
in activities that are pleasurable.

It certainly helps when being hunted down by Hyena...

God? Isn't it the thing that created wasps that paralize spiders, lays eggs
on them, then goes away?
Later the larva hatch and eat the spider alive.

And we say kids shouldn't stomp on bugs.
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Michael Gray
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 11:06 am    Post subject: Re: what good is a sense of humor? Reply with quote

On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 05:58:06 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Quote:
Michael Gray wrote:
On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 02:48:26 GMT, William_Wingstedt@comcast.net
(William Wingstedt) wrote:

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 08:31:17 -0000, RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com
wrote:

What use, evolutionarily, is humor?

The biological imperative is survive and procreate;
eat, and don't get eaten. What advantage does
laughter or mirth offer? Why would this trait be selected?

Surviving, procreating and not getting eaten is so much more
pleasurable when done with a smile. One tends to engage more readily
in activities that are pleasurable.

It certainly helps when being hunted down by Hyena...

God? Isn't it the thing that created wasps that paralize spiders, lays eggs
on them, then goes away?
Later the larva hatch and eat the spider alive.

And we say kids shouldn't stomp on bugs.

EAC Choir?
FX: (Robyn on organ: "All things Bright & Beautiful")
All together now:

All things dull and ugly, All creatures short and squat,
All things rude and nasty, The Lord God made the lot;
Each little snake that poisons, Each little wasp that stings,
He made their brutish venom, He made their horrid wings.
All things sick and cancerous, All evil great and small,
All things foul and dangerous, The Lord God made them all.
Each nasty little hornet, Each beastly little squid.
Who made the spikey urchin? Who made the sharks? He did.
All things scabbed and ulcerous, All pox both great and small.
Putrid, foul and gangrenous, The Lord God made them all.
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RichD
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:02 am    Post subject: Re: what good is a sense of humor? Reply with quote

On Jul 31, "Mike Painter" <mddotpain...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Quote:
God? Isn't it the thing that created wasps that paralize
spiders, lays eggs on them, then goes away?
Later the larva hatch and eat the spider alive.

The wasps pray more sincerely than the spiders.
It's much the same as the field goal situation
in a football game.

Quote:
And we say kids shouldn't stomp on bugs.

Could be your great granddaddy, come back
as a ladybug ... ya never know...

--
Rich
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RichD
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:02 am    Post subject: Re: what good is a sense of humor? Reply with quote

On Jul 31, Opus- <jbu...@shaw.ca> wrote:
Quote:
What use, evolutionarily, is humor?
The biological imperative is survive and procreate;
eat, and don't get eaten. What advantage does
laughter or mirth offer? Why would this trait be selected?

I think this proves Darwin was wrong and God exists.

I smell a really crappy troll but I'll bite anyways.

24 replies... not a complete dud...

Quote:
Some time in the distant past, our species discovered
that remaining in a group greatly enhanced chances
for survival because humans are
not very well equipped physically for surviving in the jungle.
Personal interaction among the individuals helped create
a bond that united the group into a relatively cohesive unit.
Things like humor and the natural need for a moral base
helped keep the group stable.

Maybe.

Or maybe because Our Father is the jocular
type... He is created in Our image, after all...

Quote:
Plus, laughing has been medically shown to be very
therapeutic, a natural release valve.

Weak.
We're talking about 100,000 years ago.
Or whenever the first joke was told...

Quote:
But I suspect that I am wasting my time.

This is Usenet...


Quote:
"With God, all atrocities are acceptable and embraced"

He's tolerant.
Aren't you?


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Rich
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