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 Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:07 am Post subject: The " Big Bang " theory is a Catholic priests invention ( be |
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until Darwin and his kind came along few have historical mention of
dabbling in what science calls Evolution. though investigation of
biological evolution existed in ancient times, Charles Darwin gets
the credit for his publications dealing with the subject since he made
the whole thing plausible by his theory of natural selection.
with many since Darwin's time coming along and adding to this
theory and polishing it up through modern technology, the whole system
goes well beyond Darwin's wildest dreams all the way back to how it
all began... the " Big Bang " theory.
the Big Bang theory came about in the last century.
the credit for forming the Big Bang theory goes to a Catholic
priest turned scientist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_bang
the Big Bang theory completely eliminates the Lord God from His
work of creation and assigns His creation and all things with it as
nothing more than an a Godless existence in a Godless universe.
yet, this is a Catholic priests position.
the poison of Evolution now has a ' plausible ' beginning... life
started from nothing alive driven by the engine of
' natural selection '.
the circle is complete. God is removed as the hand behind His
marvelous work of creation by none other than a Catholic priest.
there is no need to address personal responsibility toward God for He
doesn't exist... it all happened by chance.
the is no need for Jesus Christ... He doesn't exist... He did not
frame the universe since it all came about by chance through the
Big Bang. life has no meaning. no purpose. no God.
thank you, priest.
the poison of this doctrine of a Godless world came from a
Papist. the teaching is part and parcel of every school book in
America and is feed to little children without the counter explanation
of Creationism.
regardless of whatever religious background a child is being
brought up in by his parents, be it Islamic, Catholic, or Protestant,
the child is being feed the Catholic doctrine of the Big Bang.
the child is being educated in Catholicism in secular school
curriculums. he is being prepared for servitude to the Antichrist.
even if the child is of Atheists parents devoted to bringing up the
child as an Atheist, the child is feed Catholicism in school by the
Catholic theory of the Big Bang.
because the source of the Big Bang theory is a Papist priest the
Big Bang theory is a religious idea. it follow's right along with
other religious ideas of praying to statues, praying to Mary as
Co-Redeemer, forgiveness of sins through payment of money, succession
of Apostleship and every sort of blasphemy stemming from a Godless
religion.
the Big Bang theory is an attempt to remove the truth of the Lord
God from all human though. it makes science the Bible and the only
rule of faithlessness and practice.
" The wicked, in the haughtiness of his countenance, does not seek
[Him.] All his thoughts are, "There is no God." Ps 10:4
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" believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved "
Acts 16:31
" and as many as had been appointed to eternal life, believed."
Acts 13:48 |
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Steven J.
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| Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:31 am Post subject: Re: The " Big Bang " theory is a Catholic priests invention |
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On Jul 20, 5:54 am, old man joe <n...@home.com> wrote:
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until Darwin and his kind came along few have historical mention of
dabbling in what science calls Evolution. though investigation of
biological evolution existed in ancient times, Charles Darwin gets
the credit for his publications dealing with the subject since he made
the whole thing plausible by his theory of natural selection.
with many since Darwin's time coming along and adding to this
theory and polishing it up through modern technology, the whole system
goes well beyond Darwin's wildest dreams all the way back to how it
all began... the " Big Bang " theory.
The "Big Bang" is not part of biological evolutionary theory. |
Evolutionary theory does not depend on any particular origin for the
universe, or, indeed, on having an origin for the universe at all. In
Darwin's own time, there was a revival of support for Aristotle's idea
that the universe was infinitely old, with no beginning, only an
endless chain of cause and effect extending infinitely into the past
and future. In the 20th century, Gold's "steady-state" cosmology had
the same implication: a universe with no need and no room for a
beginning. Conversely, one can posit a miraculously created universe
(and even, if one insists, miraculously created original single cells)
billions of years ago, and let evolution proceed from there.
Of course, there are old-earth creationists who accept the Big Bang
but reject biological evolution. They see also, in their own way,
that the Big Bang is not, in fact, part of evolutionary theory.
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the Big Bang theory came about in the last century.
Well, the theory did; the actual Big Bang was much earlier.
the credit for forming the Big Bang theory goes to a Catholic
priest turned scientist.
A good deal of the credit, however, goes to George Gamow, who actually |
worked out the details of the theory (although of course several later
physicists have refined the theory in various ways).
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_bang
the Big Bang theory completely eliminates the Lord God from His
work of creation and assigns His creation and all things with it as
nothing more than an a Godless existence in a Godless universe.
yet, this is a Catholic priests position.
The Big Bang is a theory about the history of the universe rather |
than, strictly speaking, its origin. The Big Bang implies that the
universe had a beginning at a particular point in time (some 13 or 14
billion years ago, and originally was much smaller, hotter, and denser
than today, but has expanded and cooled. In and of itself, the Big
Bang theory does not deal with the question of whether God exists or
caused the Big Bang (as noted, many old-earth creationists hold that
the Big Bang was God's way of creating the universe). The Big Bang
implies that stars and planets can form without direct miraculous
intervention. Of course, modern embryology implies that human beings
(and other living things) can form in the world today without direct
miraculous intervention; if modern embryology is consistent with God
and creation, surely the Big Bang is (it may not be compatible,
whatever Hugh Ross insists, with biblical literalism, but that is a
different matter, surely).
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the poison of Evolution now has a ' plausible ' beginning... life
started from nothing alive driven by the engine of
' natural selection '.
Life is not known to be more than four billion years old; that makes |
it nine or ten billion years younger than the universe. The Big Bang
does not purport to explain how life originated, and, as noted,
neither evolutionary theory nor current speculations about abiogenesis
require any particular account for the origin of the universe (or,
again, that it have an origin at all).
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the circle is complete. God is removed as the hand behind His
marvelous work of creation by none other than a Catholic priest.
there is no need to address personal responsibility toward God for He
doesn't exist... it all happened by chance.
If God is supposed to be the hand *behind* creation, then why can He |
not be behind the Big Bang, as He is behind meteorology (rain happens
with no windows of heaven, due to purely naturalistic changes in
pressure, humidity, and temperature), embryology, and, well, according
to orthodox Christian theology, everything? You seem to dislike the
Big Bang theory, but have no remotely logical arguments against it;
even your theological arguments are, on purely Christian grounds,
gibberish.
I should point out that neither the Big Bang theory nor evolutionary
theory imply that "it all happened by chance," even if one rejects the
idea that God is behind the history of the universe and life.
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the is no need for Jesus Christ... He doesn't exist... He did not
frame the universe since it all came about by chance through the
Big Bang. life has no meaning. no purpose. no God.
thank you, priest.
It is not a prediction of Big Bang theories that Jesus Christ did not |
(or does not) exist. Conversely, rejecting the Big Bang does not make
it more plausible or probable that Jesus Christ was God or that he
framed the universe. Your argument here is missing pretty much
everything in the way of supporting facts or logic.
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the poison of this doctrine of a Godless world came from a
Papist. the teaching is part and parcel of every school book in
America and is feed to little children without the counter explanation
of Creationism.
It does not seem to me that the validity of a theory depends much on |
who proposed it, although people other than you would assume that, if
a theory was propounded by a Catholic priest, it probably does not, in
fact, imply a "Godless world," or at least that the Catholic priest
did not draw such an implication from it. And, as noted, neither do
self-proclaimed biblical literalists like Hugh Ross, the old-earth
creationist. For him, the Big Bang is part of the creationist
explanation, although I concede that plenty of secular cosmologists
can be found who point out that creationism adds nothing to the
explanatory power of the Big Bang.
Certainly, the "counter-explanation" of Creationism isn't so much of
an explanation of the evidence as an insistence that the evidence
doesn't need an explanation. It is an appeal to reject human reason
in favor of insisting that everything is the way it is because God
made it that way, and never mind why or how He made it that way.
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regardless of whatever religious background a child is being
brought up in by his parents, be it Islamic, Catholic, or Protestant,
the child is being feed the Catholic doctrine of the Big Bang.
I'm curious: is Newton's law of gravity (at least as widely and |
dogmatically taught as Big Bang theory) an Anglican theory (Newton,
officially) or an Arian (Newton, privately) one? Is the idea that
matter is made of atoms pagan (Democritus) or Quaker (Dalton)? Is
every theory proposed by a Roman Catholic scientist (and there are
quite a few of them) a Catholic idea, or just the theories you (based
on your rather limited grasp of them) disapprove of?
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the child is being educated in Catholicism in secular school
curriculums. he is being prepared for servitude to the Antichrist.
even if the child is of Atheists parents devoted to bringing up the
child as an Atheist, the child is feed Catholicism in school by the
Catholic theory of the Big Bang.
Please explain, in simple terms, how one derives the doctrine of the |
Real Presence or of the Immaculate Conception from Big Bang theory.
For extra credit, describe the implications of inflationary Big Bang
theory on the issue of sedavacantism.
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because the source of the Big Bang theory is a Papist priest the
Big Bang theory is a religious idea. it follow's right along with
other religious ideas of praying to statues, praying to Mary as
Co-Redeemer, forgiveness of sins through payment of money, succession
of Apostleship and every sort of blasphemy stemming from a Godless
religion.
Because modern atomic theory was developed by a Quaker, it follows |
that if you accept the existence of atoms, that you reject Calvinism.
Also you must be a pacifist. At least, that seems to follow by your
method of reasoning, if "reasoning" is the correct term for what you
do to ideas.
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the Big Bang theory is an attempt to remove the truth of the Lord
God from all human though. it makes science the Bible and the only
rule of faithlessness and practice.
No, it's just an attempt to explain the pattern of galactic |
redshifts. But thank you for playing.
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" The wicked, in the haughtiness of his countenance, does not seek
[Him.] All his thoughts are, "There is no God." Ps 10:4
************************************************
" believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved "
Acts 16:31
" and as many as had been appointed to eternal life, believed."
Acts 13:48
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| Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:02 am Post subject: Re: The " Big Bang " theory is a Catholic priests invention |
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old man joe wrote:
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until Darwin and his kind came along few have historical mention of
dabbling in what science calls Evolution. though investigation of
biological evolution existed in ancient times, Charles Darwin gets
the credit for his publications dealing with the subject since he made
the whole thing plausible by his theory of natural selection.
with many since Darwin's time coming along and adding to this
theory and polishing it up through modern technology, the whole system
goes well beyond Darwin's wildest dreams all the way back to how it
all began... the " Big Bang " theory.
the Big Bang theory came about in the last century.
the credit for forming the Big Bang theory goes to a Catholic
priest turned scientist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_bang
the Big Bang theory completely eliminates the Lord God from His
work of creation and assigns His creation and all things with it as
nothing more than an a Godless existence in a Godless universe.
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No, it is Egyptian and Old at that.
It is about the "Thought saying "I am" am the Light bringing order out
of the darkness of chaos.
When the Body Became, the "Big Bang" formed "All Things".
A Day in the Life of God is as a Thousand Years to Man.
Ancients believed the world but 10,000 years old.(Is after the
"Flood"/Breaking of the World)
As such 7 Days to build the earth and 3 days for the existence of man.
There is evolution in the teachings.
Further the Anglican teachings tell of the Sons of Gods descending from
the Heavens and mating with the Daughters of the Earth.
The Anglie are different than the "Primates".
Evolution of the Species. |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:02 am Post subject: Re: The " Big Bang " theory is a Catholic priests invention |
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H Dickmann wrote:
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"old man joe" <not@home.com> wrote in message
news:6q41a35ncqv2s261kbs9qi76f7qrbf2tre@4ax.com...
until Darwin and his kind came along few have historical mention of
dabbling in what science calls Evolution. though investigation of
biological evolution existed in ancient times, Charles Darwin gets
the credit for his publications dealing with the subject since he made
the whole thing plausible by his theory of natural selection.
with many since Darwin's time coming along and adding to this
theory and polishing it up through modern technology, the whole system
goes well beyond Darwin's wildest dreams all the way back to how it
all began... the " Big Bang " theory.
the Big Bang theory came about in the last century.
the credit for forming the Big Bang theory goes to a Catholic
priest turned scientist.
Wrong.
Southern Baptists invented evolution when they made the claim that black
slaves are not quite human.
Being not quite human means they were still evolving.
Anglican Teachings tells of the Separationist Teachings of "Primates" |
and the Anglie.
Sons of Gods came down and mated with the Daughters of the Earth.
Pendragon represents the 5 Points of Man.
Red, White, Blue, Naturals/Primates and Halflings a breed which can
evolve in infinite form.
Some believe the Pentagram evil it is actually Tibetan and Represents
the Pyramid or the Cross.
Especially the "Celtic Cross" and "Templar Cross".
The Templar Cross Exemplifies the 4 corners or elements,
the Celtic represents the Middle Point where all things mix into
infinite form.
Bruin Gi "Brown Haired" are a result of "Mixing".
We are the Mutts or Halflings of Pendragon.
Spawn of the Red's and Blue's. |
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