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old man joe · Guest

" But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers shall
worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father
seeks to be His worshipers. " Joh. 4:23

for this cause the true worshipers of the Father are given John 1:13
which states that the " thelema ," or determinate will of man, has
absolutely nothing to do with receiving Christ because receiving
Christ resides solely in the " thelema, " the determinate will of God.
Joh. 1:13e

to be of the truth, the true worshipers of the Father believe all
that the Bible says about them... even when these were in their
natural state... dead in sin unable to choose Christ... as in Eph
Chapter 2... because their " thelema " is " thelo " ... willing rather
to do the desires of their father, the devil... as in Joh. 8:44

but when " He chose us " through the power of God and not the boast
of man, the hour came and now is that the true worshipers of the
Father worship Him in Spirit directed Truth.

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while the arrogant walk in boastful rebellion against the doctrine
of Sovereign grace, it is meant as a sign from God as the calling but
not the election of the tares. Php. 1:28

true worship of the Father is designed by the Father as declared by
the Son and made possible by the Holy Spirit. the tares, on the other
hand, proclaim their own theology which is based on will worship.. the
control of salvation by man.

this arrogant boast of the flesh is the result of not hearing the
Word of God ( Joh. 8:47 ) for the chosen of the Father speak of His
grace as His way of saving sinners while they were yet dead in sin.

this glorifies God... will worshipers have no need to glorify God
being devoid of anything in them that would bring true praise in true
worship from true hearts.

these glorify the sovereignty of man. their " thelema " did not save
them but is devoted to do their " thelo " ... their determinate choice
to serve the devil. Joh. 8:44; 1 Joh. 5:19

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" believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved "
Acts 16:31

" and as many as had been appointed to eternal life, believed."
Acts 13:48