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 Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:03 am Post subject: Evolution is a religion |
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Then, of course,let's discuss the liberal creation myth: Charles Darwin's
theory of evolution as a bogus science. I am writing with a keen
appreciation for genuine science,and the so-called gaps in the theory of
evolution are all there is-Darwinism is nothing but a gap. After 150 years
of dedicated searching into the fossil record, evolution's proponents have
failed utterly to substantiate its claims. And a long line of supposed
evidence, from the infamous Piltdown Man to the "evolving" peppered moths of
England, has been exposed as hoaxes. Still, evolutionists treat those who
question evolution as religious heretics and prohibit students from hearing
about real science when it contradicts Darwinism. And these are the people
who say they want to keep faith out of the classroom. Liberals absolute
devotion to Darwinism,has nothing to do with evolution's scientific validity
and everything to do with its refusal to admit the possibility of God as a
guiding force. They will brook no challenges to the official religion.
Liberals love to boast that they are not 'religious,' which is what one
would expect to hear from the state-sanctioned religion. Of course evolution
is a religion. It has its own cosmology, its own miracles, its own beliefs
in the supernatural, its own churches, its own high priests, its own saints,
its own total worldview, and its own explanation of the existence of the
universe. In other words, liberalism contains all the attributes of what is
generally known as 'religion.
Godless-The church of liberalism |
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Steven J.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:34 am Post subject: Re: Evolution is a religion |
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On Jul 1, 9:03 pm, "Atheist Stooges" <Atheist.stoo...@yahoo.com>
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Then, of course,let's discuss the liberal creation myth: Charles Darwin's
theory of evolution as a bogus science. I am writing with a keen
appreciation for genuine science,and the so-called gaps in the theory of
evolution are all there is-Darwinism is nothing but a gap. After 150 years
of dedicated searching into the fossil record, evolution's proponents have
failed utterly to substantiate its claims. And a long line of supposed
evidence, from the infamous Piltdown Man to the "evolving" peppered moths of
England, has been exposed as hoaxes.
The peppered moths are not a hoax, and illustrate the phenomenon of |
natural selection (so, for that matter, does the Grants' research on
finches in the Galapagos and various other studies in both the field
and the lab). Piltdown man was a hoax (*sigh* that puts us one fake
hominid in the evolution evidence category, against two or three fake
Noah's Arks in the creation evidence category). Fossil AL288-1
("Lucy") and the other australopith fossils are not frauds. ER1470
(declared by some creationists to clearly be fully human, and by
others to clearly be a nonhuman ape) is not a fraud. The Dmanisi
skulls are not frauds. Shared pseudogenes and endogenous retroviruses
in humans and other primates are not frauds. It's easy to dismiss, as
"frauds," an immense weight of evidence of which the author appears to
be entirely ignorant, but the ease is bought at the cost of
credibility.
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Still, evolutionists treat those who
question evolution as religious heretics and prohibit students from hearing
about real science when it contradicts Darwinism. And these are the people
who say they want to keep faith out of the classroom. Liberals absolute
devotion to Darwinism,has nothing to do with evolution's scientific validity
and everything to do with its refusal to admit the possibility of God as a
guiding force. They will brook no challenges to the official religion.
Evolutionary theory excludes God as the guiding force in the |
development of life's complexity and diversity, to exactly the extent
and in exactly the same way that meteorology excludes God from opening
the windows of heaven and sending rain on the just and the unjust.
The "absolute devotion" to Darwin is as atheistic and "liberal" as is
the "absolute devotion" to Copernicus (whatever happened to the
Biblical geocentric universe?) and heliocentrism. There is no real
science contradicting common descent or the importance of natural
selection as a mechanism of adaption. There is real science posing
various questions that have not yet been answered; viewing this as
"evidence against Darwinism" or for "the possibility of God as a
guiding force" is, precisely, what has classically been viewed as a
"god of the gaps" mentality.
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Liberals love to boast that they are not 'religious,' which is what one
would expect to hear from the state-sanctioned religion. Of course evolution
is a religion. It has its own cosmology, its own miracles, its own beliefs
in the supernatural, its own churches, its own high priests, its own saints,
its own total worldview, and its own explanation of the existence of the
universe. In other words, liberalism contains all the attributes of what is
generally known as 'religion.
Ann shows her lack of seriousness with the absurd statement that a |
state-sanctioned religion would be expected to deny that it is a
religion (do the ayatollahs in Iran deny that Islam is a religion?
for that matter, does the Church of England even deny that it is a
religion?). Of course, she shows a lack of seriousness by equating
"liberalism" with "evolution" in the first place. Note that something
is not "supernatural" simply because Ann Coulter (or even Jonathon
Wells) does not believe in it or understand it. Something does not
have "miracles" merely because it seeks naturalistic explanations for
unexplained phenomena (by the way, wouldn't those unexplained
phenomena be creationism's miracles -- so how can they be evolution's
own, presumably distinctive, miracles?). Evolutionary theory has
neither an explanation for the existence of the universe (why the
universe exists has no obvious relevance to how populations of living
things change over time), nor a "total worldview" (unless you count
the worldview -- that natural phenomena require natural explanations
-- that it shares with all of science). It does not, in fact, have
saints and clergy (one can assert, of course, that various
evolutionists are "saints" or "clergy," but one could assert that of
the Republican party, or of baseball, or of political commentary; one
can assert all sorts of silly things and make all sorts of pointless
analogies).
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Godless-The church of liberalism
Way to quote from those secondary sources (okay, tertiary or later |
sources)! Ann Coulter's screed against evolution is based entirely on
her discussions with or reading of William Dembski, Michael Behe, and
Jonathon Wells, whose creationist notions she has dumbed down (sort of
like watering down homeopathic medicines, but she manages) and, on
occasion, mangled.
Coulter knows *nothing* about evolutionary theory, and I think was not
even trying seriously. This is a woman who asserts that "Darwinists"
think whales evolved when a whale fell into the ocean; despite the
public press given to assorted fossil species like _Pakicetus_,
_Ambulocetus_, Rhodocetus_, etc. she apparently has not heard of the
research that links whales to artiodactyls, with hippopotamuses as
their closest relatives. Just how clueless can a critic of
evolutionary theory be, and not know these things (well, I suppose you
at least answer that question)?
Coulter is writing to provoke and amuse; any actual logical argument
is secondary (and, in the case of her writing on evolution, grossly
flawed and riddled with errors and falsehoods).
Her arguments are a mess.
-- Steven J. |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 7:49 am Post subject: Re: Evolution is a religion |
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"SJAB1958" <balfres@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On 2 Jul, 03:03, "Atheist Stooges" <Atheist.stoo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Then, of course,let's discuss the liberal creation myth: Charles Darwin's
theory of evolution as a bogus science. I am writing with a keen
appreciation for genuine science,and the so-called gaps in the theory of
evolution are all there is-Darwinism is nothing but a gap. After 150
years
of dedicated searching into the fossil record, evolution's proponents
have
failed utterly to substantiate its claims. And a long line of supposed
evidence, from the infamous Piltdown Man to the "evolving" peppered moths
of
England, has been exposed as hoaxes. Still, evolutionists treat those who
question evolution as religious heretics and prohibit students from
hearing
about real science when it contradicts Darwinism. And these are the
people
who say they want to keep faith out of the classroom. Liberals absolute
devotion to Darwinism,has nothing to do with evolution's scientific
validity
and everything to do with its refusal to admit the possibility of God as
a
guiding force. They will brook no challenges to the official religion.
Liberals love to boast that they are not 'religious,' which is what one
would expect to hear from the state-sanctioned religion. Of course
evolution
is a religion. It has its own cosmology, its own miracles, its own
beliefs
in the supernatural, its own churches, its own high priests, its own
saints,
its own total worldview, and its own explanation of the existence of the
universe. In other words, liberalism contains all the attributes of what
is
generally known as 'religion.
Godless-The church of liberalism
How about you google this "define:religion", you will find that
religion usually contains an element of the supernatural.
Then you should google this "define:evolution", you will find no
mention of the supernatural in any definition of that word.
Finally you ought to google this "define:creationism", you will find
that there is a significant supernatural element to it.
So tell me how does your superior intellect unravel these facts to
produce the falsehood that evolution is not science?
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:03 am Post subject: Re: Evolution is a religion |
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On 3 Jul, 03:49, "Atheist Stooges" <Atheist.stoo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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"SJAB1958" <balf...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1183400189.320975.143840@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On 2 Jul, 03:03, "Atheist Stooges" <Atheist.stoo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Then, of course,let's discuss the liberal creation myth: Charles Darwin's
theory of evolution as a bogus science. I am writing with a keen
appreciation for genuine science,and the so-called gaps in the theory of
evolution are all there is-Darwinism is nothing but a gap. After 150
years
of dedicated searching into the fossil record, evolution's proponents
have
failed utterly to substantiate its claims. And a long line of supposed
evidence, from the infamous Piltdown Man to the "evolving" peppered moths
of
England, has been exposed as hoaxes. Still, evolutionists treat those who
question evolution as religious heretics and prohibit students from
hearing
about real science when it contradicts Darwinism. And these are the
people
who say they want to keep faith out of the classroom. Liberals absolute
devotion to Darwinism,has nothing to do with evolution's scientific
validity
and everything to do with its refusal to admit the possibility of God as
a
guiding force. They will brook no challenges to the official religion.
Liberals love to boast that they are not 'religious,' which is what one
would expect to hear from the state-sanctioned religion. Of course
evolution
is a religion. It has its own cosmology, its own miracles, its own
beliefs
in the supernatural, its own churches, its own high priests, its own
saints,
its own total worldview, and its own explanation of the existence of the
universe. In other words, liberalism contains all the attributes of what
is
generally known as 'religion.
Godless-The church of liberalism
How about you google this "define:religion", you will find that
religion usually contains an element of the supernatural.
Then you should google this "define:evolution", you will find no
mention of the supernatural in any definition of that word.
Finally you ought to google this "define:creationism", you will find
that there is a significant supernatural element to it.
So tell me how does your superior intellect unravel these facts to
produce the falsehood that evolution is not science?
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| Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 9:54 am Post subject: Re: Evolution is a religion |
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"SJAB1958" <balfres@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On 3 Jul, 03:49, "Atheist Stooges" <Atheist.stoo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"SJAB1958" <balf...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1183400189.320975.143840@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On 2 Jul, 03:03, "Atheist Stooges" <Atheist.stoo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Then, of course,let's discuss the liberal creation myth: Charles
Darwin's
theory of evolution as a bogus science. I am writing with a keen
appreciation for genuine science,and the so-called gaps in the theory
of
evolution are all there is-Darwinism is nothing but a gap. After 150
years
of dedicated searching into the fossil record, evolution's proponents
have
failed utterly to substantiate its claims. And a long line of supposed
evidence, from the infamous Piltdown Man to the "evolving" peppered
moths
of
England, has been exposed as hoaxes. Still, evolutionists treat those
who
question evolution as religious heretics and prohibit students from
hearing
about real science when it contradicts Darwinism. And these are the
people
who say they want to keep faith out of the classroom. Liberals
absolute
devotion to Darwinism,has nothing to do with evolution's scientific
validity
and everything to do with its refusal to admit the possibility of God
as
a
guiding force. They will brook no challenges to the official religion.
Liberals love to boast that they are not 'religious,' which is what
one
would expect to hear from the state-sanctioned religion. Of course
evolution
is a religion. It has its own cosmology, its own miracles, its own
beliefs
in the supernatural, its own churches, its own high priests, its own
saints,
its own total worldview, and its own explanation of the existence of
the
universe. In other words, liberalism contains all the attributes of
what
is
generally known as 'religion.
Godless-The church of liberalism
How about you google this "define:religion", you will find that
religion usually contains an element of the supernatural.
Then you should google this "define:evolution", you will find no
mention of the supernatural in any definition of that word.
Finally you ought to google this "define:creationism", you will find
that there is a significant supernatural element to it.
So tell me how does your superior intellect unravel these facts to
produce the falsehood that evolution is not science?
shutup dummy- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You really are unable to defend your position, so perhaps you are the
one who should refrain from posting.
shutup dummy |
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