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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:04 am    Post subject: The Good News of Science Reply with quote

Science and religion have as their goal, the pursuit of truth. Humanism on
the other hand has the primary goal of eliminating all opposing points of
view. That's why virtually all scientific disciplines were founded by
religious people. That's why humanists have such a corrupting influence on
science. That's why we should be very suspicious of anything published by
humanists.



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:09 am    Post subject: Re: The Good News of Science Reply with quote

On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 20:04:23 -0700, "WDS"
<wdsnews.0605@oregoncity.com> wrote:

Quote:
Science and religion have as their goal, the pursuit of truth. Humanism on
the other hand has the primary goal of eliminating all opposing points of
view. That's why virtually all scientific disciplines were founded by
religious people. That's why humanists have such a corrupting influence on
science. That's why we should be very suspicious of anything published by
humanists.


Idiot.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:44 am    Post subject: Re: The Good News of Science Reply with quote

On Jun 27, 9:04 pm, "WDS" <wdsnews.0...@oregoncity.com> wrote:
Quote:
Science and religion have as their goal, the pursuit of truth.

Religions have all manner of goals. Some center on the performance of

various rituals and the propitiation of assorted spirits, and do not
concern themselves with "the pursuit of truth" any more than, say,
football or chess does. Others offer salvation (from what, and for
what, and in what matter, differs from religion to religion: a
Buddhist and a Christian are unlikely to agree on what you need to be
saved from or how this is best accomplished). Many religions assume
that they *have* the Truth (complete with capital "T"), and hence no
need to pursue it (and hence, also, a certain distrust of those who
insist on pursuing it anyway). Science, for its part, has as its goal
the pursuit of better theories (testable explanations for the data).
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Humanism on
the other hand has the primary goal of eliminating all opposing points of
view.

Is this offered as a definition of a term "humanism" that you have

just coined, and which we are not to confuse with other ideas that
have been called "humanism" in the past? Or is it supposed to be a
correct inference about some actual ideology, movement, or theory
whose proponents call it "humanism?" I know of several different
value systems called "humanism," and your description does not fit any
of them very well.
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That's why virtually all scientific disciplines were founded by
religious people.

Charles Darwin, for example, was a great fan of Paley's natural

theology and a believer in the authority of the Bible when he came up
with the idea of common descent with modification by natural
selection. Darwin's religious beliefs gradually diminished over time,
but his friend and correspondent Asa Gray remained a believer all his
life, even as he helped promulgate Darwin's ideas about evolution. Of
course, there are various ways of being "religious;" e.g. Albert
Einstein, the founder of relativistic physics, felt a sort of
reverence for the wondrous order of the laws of nature, but did not
attribute them to or worship a personal Creator.
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That's why humanists have such a corrupting influence on
science. That's why we should be very suspicious of anything published by
humanists.

Without some idea of what you mean by "humanists," this advice is

meaningless and useless. Of course, given your record, a definition
might not improve matters.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:01 am    Post subject: Re: The Good News of Science Reply with quote

On 28 Jun, 04:04, "WDS" <wdsnews.0...@oregoncity.com> wrote:
Quote:
Science and religion have as their goal, the pursuit of truth. Humanism on
the other hand has the primary goal of eliminating all opposing points of
view. That's why virtually all scientific disciplines were founded by
religious people. That's why humanists have such a corrupting influence on
science. That's why we should be very suspicious of anything published by
humanists.

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Religious truths are absolutes that you are not permitted to question.

Scientific truths are always being challenged, and are open to
question.

How then can you claim that "science and religion have as their goal,
the pursuit of truth"?
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