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SJAB1958
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 Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:10 am Post subject: An Important Question |
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Apart from the various religious texts and mythologies of the world,
what empirical evidence is there for the existence of a supernatural
realm inhabited by an entity (or entities) that are capable of
manipulating matter and energy in the physical universe while
remaining independent from it? |
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SJAB1958
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| Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:10 am Post subject: Re: An Important Question |
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On 24 Jun, 09:29, "The Rev Dr. Hugh Jarse NLAHN."
<hugh.ja...@heathens.org.uk> wrote:
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On Jun 24, 9:01 am, SJAB1958 <balf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 24 Jun, 08:57, "L. Raymond" <badaddr...@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
SJAB1958 wrote:
Apart from the various religious texts and mythologies of the world,
what empirical evidence is there for the existence of a supernatural
realm inhabited by an entity (or entities) that are capable of
manipulating matter and energy in the physical universe while
remaining independent from it?
I disagree with your subject line. The supernatural is not at all
important.
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L. Raymond
Did I actually say the supernatural was important?
Indeed, the question is: is the question important? And is the
question as to whether the question is important, important?- Hide quoted text -
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The answer to that being .... possibly yes. |
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SJAB1958
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| Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:10 am Post subject: Re: An Important Question |
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On 24 Jun, 09:27, "The Rev Dr. Hugh Jarse NLAHN."
<hugh.ja...@heathens.org.uk> wrote:
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On Jun 24, 8:47 am, SJAB1958 <balf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Apart from the various religious texts and mythologies of the world,
what empirical evidence is there for the existence of a supernatural
realm inhabited by an entity (or entities) that are capable of
manipulating matter and energy in the physical universe while
remaining independent from it?
Oh! Coatanger, the god of missing socks and ballpoint pens definitely
exists!
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Do you have the coordinates for its (or their) location? |
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SJAB1958
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| Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:10 am Post subject: Re: An Important Question |
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On 24 Jun, 09:31, Figaro <fig...@satx.rr.com> wrote:
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SJAB1958 wrote:
Apart from the various religious texts and mythologies of the world,
what empirical evidence is there for the existence of a supernatural
realm inhabited by an entity (or entities) that are capable of
manipulating matter and energy in the physical universe while
remaining independent from it?
How can you expect empirical evidence for the existence of anything deemed
supernatural? I think your question would have been more logical had you
omitted the word "supernatural".
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Well being as all such entities mentioned in all religious texts and
mythologies are described as existing beyond the physical universe
then logically the realm/dimension/whatever that they inhabit can only
be referred to as the supernatural, unless of course you have a better
word in mind. |
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Michael Gray
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| Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:10 am Post subject: Re: An Important Question |
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On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 00:47:01 -0700, SJAB1958 <balfres@hotmail.com>
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- Refer: <1182671221.359677.5920@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>
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Apart from the various religious texts and mythologies of the world,
what empirical evidence is there for the existence of a supernatural
realm inhabited by an entity (or entities) that are capable of
manipulating matter and energy in the physical universe while
remaining independent from it?
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Exactly zero.
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SJAB1958
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| Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:10 am Post subject: Re: An Important Question |
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On 24 Jun, 09:49, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
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On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 00:47:01 -0700, SJAB1958 <balf...@hotmail.com
wrote:
- Refer: <1182671221.359677.5...@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com
Apart from the various religious texts and mythologies of the world,
what empirical evidence is there for the existence of a supernatural
realm inhabited by an entity (or entities) that are capable of
manipulating matter and energy in the physical universe while
remaining independent from it?
Exactly zero.
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But will there always be zero evidence? |
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Michael Gray
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| Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:10 am Post subject: Re: An Important Question |
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On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 01:52:39 -0700, SJAB1958 <balfres@hotmail.com>
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- Refer: <1182675159.715971.242410@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com>
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On 24 Jun, 09:49, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 00:47:01 -0700, SJAB1958 <balf...@hotmail.com
wrote:
- Refer: <1182671221.359677.5...@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com
Apart from the various religious texts and mythologies of the world,
what empirical evidence is there for the existence of a supernatural
realm inhabited by an entity (or entities) that are capable of
manipulating matter and energy in the physical universe while
remaining independent from it?
Exactly zero.
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But will there always be zero evidence?
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Yes.
As soon as there is evidence, they become natural.
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The Rev Dr. Hugh Jarse NL
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| Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:10 am Post subject: Re: An Important Question |
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On Jun 24, 9:42 am, SJAB1958 <balf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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On 24 Jun, 09:27, "The Rev Dr. Hugh Jarse NLAHN."
hugh.ja...@heathens.org.uk> wrote:
On Jun 24, 8:47 am, SJAB1958 <balf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Apart from the various religious texts and mythologies of the world,
what empirical evidence is there for the existence of a supernatural
realm inhabited by an entity (or entities) that are capable of
manipulating matter and energy in the physical universe while
remaining independent from it?
Oh! Coatanger, the god of missing socks and ballpoint pens definitely
exists!
Do you have the coordinates for its (or their) location?
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Mostly attached to peoples cars in lieu of a radio aerial. |
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Figaro
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| Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:10 am Post subject: Re: An Important Question |
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SJAB1958 wrote:
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Apart from the various religious texts and mythologies of the world,
what empirical evidence is there for the existence of a supernatural
realm inhabited by an entity (or entities) that are capable of
manipulating matter and energy in the physical universe while
remaining independent from it?
How can you expect empirical evidence for the existence of anything deemed |
supernatural? I think your question would have been more logical had you
omitted the word "supernatural". |
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The Rev Dr. Hugh Jarse NL
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| Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:10 am Post subject: Re: An Important Question |
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On Jun 24, 9:01 am, SJAB1958 <balf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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On 24 Jun, 08:57, "L. Raymond" <badaddr...@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
SJAB1958 wrote:
Apart from the various religious texts and mythologies of the world,
what empirical evidence is there for the existence of a supernatural
realm inhabited by an entity (or entities) that are capable of
manipulating matter and energy in the physical universe while
remaining independent from it?
I disagree with your subject line. The supernatural is not at all
important.
--
L. Raymond
Did I actually say the supernatural was important?
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Indeed, the question is: is the question important? And is the
question as to whether the question is important, important? |
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The Rev Dr. Hugh Jarse NL
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| Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:10 am Post subject: Re: An Important Question |
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On Jun 24, 8:47 am, SJAB1958 <balf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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Apart from the various religious texts and mythologies of the world,
what empirical evidence is there for the existence of a supernatural
realm inhabited by an entity (or entities) that are capable of
manipulating matter and energy in the physical universe while
remaining independent from it?
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Oh! Coatanger, the god of missing socks and ballpoint pens definitely
exists! |
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SJAB1958
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| Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:10 am Post subject: Re: An Important Question |
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On 24 Jun, 08:57, "L. Raymond" <badaddr...@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
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SJAB1958 wrote:
Apart from the various religious texts and mythologies of the world,
what empirical evidence is there for the existence of a supernatural
realm inhabited by an entity (or entities) that are capable of
manipulating matter and energy in the physical universe while
remaining independent from it?
I disagree with your subject line. The supernatural is not at all
important.
--
L. Raymond
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Did I actually say the supernatural was important? |
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L. Raymond
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| Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:10 am Post subject: Re: An Important Question |
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SJAB1958 wrote:
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Apart from the various religious texts and mythologies of the world,
what empirical evidence is there for the existence of a supernatural
realm inhabited by an entity (or entities) that are capable of
manipulating matter and energy in the physical universe while
remaining independent from it?
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I disagree with your subject line. The supernatural is not at all
important.
--
L. Raymond |
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Al Klein
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:22 am Post subject: Re: An Important Question |
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On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 01:45:08 -0700, SJAB1958 <balfres@hotmail.com>
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Well being as all such entities mentioned in all religious texts and
mythologies are described as existing beyond the physical universe
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Since that's a logical (as well as lexical) impossibility, any god
claimed to "live there" can't exist.
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then logically the realm/dimension/whatever that they inhabit can only
be referred to as the supernatural, unless of course you have a better
word in mind.
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"Nonexistent" would be one. Nothing can possibly exist outside
everything that exists. |
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Al Klein
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:24 am Post subject: Re: An Important Question |
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On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 09:45:02 -0700, Santolina chamaecyparissus
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On Jun 24, 12:47 am, SJAB1958 <balf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Apart from the various religious texts and mythologies of the world,
what empirical evidence is there for the existence of a supernatural
realm inhabited by an entity (or entities) that are capable of
manipulating matter and energy in the physical universe while
remaining independent from it?
Is it even possible to produce such evidence? How could one possibly
differentiate between evidence in the natural world produced by a
being from without it from evidence produced within it?
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And from lack of evidence in the natural world? |
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