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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 8:11 am    Post subject: Evolution in Action - Creationist Behe Taken Down Sharply Reply with quote

Blake Stacy delivers the final death-blow to Behe's just-published
book, and gives a fine lesson in the *fact* of evolution to boot:
http://www.sunclipse.org/?p=133
"What we're seeing here is not the sudden corruption of two "letters"
in a DNA "sentence," but rather the gradual accumulation of mutations,
eventually gathering together to confer chloroquine resistance upon
the lucky winner."

Budikka
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:07 am    Post subject: Re: Evolution in Action - Creationist Behe Taken Down Sharpl Reply with quote

"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1181272296.166979.39240@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
Blake Stacy delivers the final death-blow to Behe's just-published
book, and gives a fine lesson in the *fact* of evolution to boot:
http://www.sunclipse.org/?p=133
"What we're seeing here is not the sudden corruption of two "letters"
in a DNA "sentence," but rather the gradual accumulation of mutations,
eventually gathering together to confer chloroquine resistance upon
the lucky winner."

Budikka


Evolution = Magic Monkeys,Flying pigs,talking rocks,protozoa that build
rockets,breathing mud,invisible labs and invisible observations!

Wow,the sheer science of it all!
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Budikka666
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:26 am    Post subject: Re: Evolution in Action - Creationist Behe Taken Down Sharpl Reply with quote

On Jun 7, 11:07 pm, "Atheist are Stooges" <Atheist.Stoo...@Yahoo.com>
wrote:
Quote:
"Budikka666" <budik...@netscape.net> wrote in message

news:1181272296.166979.39240@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

Blake Stacy delivers the final death-blow to Behe's just-published
book, and gives a fine lesson in the *fact* of evolution to boot:
http://www.sunclipse.org/?p=133
"What we're seeing here is not the sudden corruption of two "letters"
in a DNA "sentence," but rather the gradual accumulation of mutations,
eventually gathering together to confer chloroquine resistance upon
the lucky winner."

Budikka

Evolution = Magic Monkeys,Flying pigs,talking rocks,protozoa that build
rockets,breathing mud,invisible labs and invisible observations!

It sounds far more like you're describing Christianity than evolution
there, but how 'bout you and me have a formal debate on the topic
right here in this thread, huh?

If you think your case is so strong and the case for evolution (which
is, BTW, a proven fact) so weak, it ought to be easy for you.

You bring your best positive scientific evidence *for* a creation and
I guarantee you right here and now that I'll refute all of it.

Do you have what it takes to support your claims?

You only really need three things:
1. The science to support your claims
2. The guts to face me in debate
3. A better grasp of grammar than your screen handle suggests you
possess.
(and the third one is optional).

So are you another cowardly creationist posting lies and running, or
are you actually going to show up with the goods? The Internet
community in these world-wide public fora await your answer.

Budikka
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:27 am    Post subject: Re: Evolution in Action - Creationist Behe Taken Down Sharpl Reply with quote

"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1181276778.944325.275860@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
On Jun 7, 11:07 pm, "Atheist are Stooges" <Atheist.Stoo...@Yahoo.com
wrote:
"Budikka666" <budik...@netscape.net> wrote in message

news:1181272296.166979.39240@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

Blake Stacy delivers the final death-blow to Behe's just-published
book, and gives a fine lesson in the *fact* of evolution to boot:
http://www.sunclipse.org/?p=133
"What we're seeing here is not the sudden corruption of two "letters"
in a DNA "sentence," but rather the gradual accumulation of mutations,
eventually gathering together to confer chloroquine resistance upon
the lucky winner."

Budikka

Evolution = Magic Monkeys,Flying pigs,talking rocks,protozoa that build
rockets,breathing mud,invisible labs and invisible observations!

It sounds far more like you're describing Christianity than evolution
there, but how 'bout you and me have a formal debate on the topic
right here in this thread, huh?

If you think your case is so strong and the case for evolution (which
is, BTW, a proven fact) so weak, it ought to be easy for you.

You bring your best positive scientific evidence *for* a creation and
I guarantee you right here and now that I'll refute all of it.

Do you have what it takes to support your claims?

You only really need three things:
1. The science to support your claims
2. The guts to face me in debate
3. A better grasp of grammar than your screen handle suggests you
possess.
(and the third one is optional).

So are you another cowardly creationist posting lies and running, or
are you actually going to show up with the goods? The Internet
community in these world-wide public fora await your answer.

Budikka

Like I said: Evolution = Magic Monkeys,Flying pigs,talking rocks,protozoa
that build
rockets,breathing mud,invisible labs and invisible observations!

Wow,the sheer science of it all!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:59 am    Post subject: Re: Evolution in Action - Creationist Behe Taken Down Sharpl Reply with quote

In article <1181272296.166979.39240@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:

Quote:
Blake Stacy delivers the final death-blow to Behe's just-published
book, and gives a fine lesson in the *fact* of evolution to boot:
http://www.sunclipse.org/?p=133
"What we're seeing here is not the sudden corruption of two "letters"
in a DNA "sentence," but rather the gradual accumulation of mutations,
eventually gathering together to confer chloroquine resistance upon
the lucky winner."

It's hard to believe that Behe is still taken seriously. It's still, "We
don't know how (fill in the blank) happened so god....erm, I mean the
Intelligent Designer did it!"
Quote:

Budikka
--

John #1782

"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."

- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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Michael Gray
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:01 am    Post subject: Re: Evolution in Action - Creationist Behe Taken Down Sharpl Reply with quote

On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 03:57:23 -0400, John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <iu2i63ha4c3pfg2f46bccs5jhp2tdjb5od@4ax.com>
Quote:
On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 15:29:43 +0930, Michael Gray
mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 20:11:36 -0700, Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net
wrote:
- Refer: <1181272296.166979.39240@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com
Blake Stacy delivers the final death-blow to Behe's just-published
book, and gives a fine lesson in the *fact* of evolution to boot:
http://www.sunclipse.org/?p=133
"What we're seeing here is not the sudden corruption of two "letters"
in a DNA "sentence," but rather the gradual accumulation of mutations,
eventually gathering together to confer chloroquine resistance upon
the lucky winner."

Budikka

How strange the Behe should attempt to demolish the fact of evolution
by pointing out a specific documented case of it actually occurring.

I thought that he had more brains than that.

Why would you think that? ;-)

He can speak coherently at times.
And that makes him the Albert Einstein of Creationist Fundies.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:01 am    Post subject: Re: Evolution in Action - Creationist Behe Taken Down Sharpl Reply with quote

On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 15:29:43 +0930, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

Quote:
On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 20:11:36 -0700, Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net
wrote:
- Refer: <1181272296.166979.39240@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com
Blake Stacy delivers the final death-blow to Behe's just-published
book, and gives a fine lesson in the *fact* of evolution to boot:
http://www.sunclipse.org/?p=133
"What we're seeing here is not the sudden corruption of two "letters"
in a DNA "sentence," but rather the gradual accumulation of mutations,
eventually gathering together to confer chloroquine resistance upon
the lucky winner."

Budikka

How strange the Behe should attempt to demolish the fact of evolution
by pointing out a specific documented case of it actually occurring.

I thought that he had more brains than that.

Why would you think that? ;-)
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:01 am    Post subject: Re: Evolution in Action - Creationist Behe Taken Down Sharpl Reply with quote

One fine day in alt.atheism, "Atheist are Stooges"
<Atheist.Stooges@Yahoo.com> bloodied us up with this:

Quote:


"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1181272296.166979.39240@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
Blake Stacy delivers the final death-blow to Behe's just-published
book, and gives a fine lesson in the *fact* of evolution to boot:
http://www.sunclipse.org/?p=133
"What we're seeing here is not the sudden corruption of two "letters"
in a DNA "sentence," but rather the gradual accumulation of mutations,
eventually gathering together to confer chloroquine resistance upon
the lucky winner."

Budikka


Evolution = Magic Monkeys,Flying pigs,talking rocks,protozoa that build
rockets,breathing mud,invisible labs and invisible observations!

Wow,the sheer science of it all!


Damn! Welcome back, Raytard!

--
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aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack.
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Michael Gray
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:01 am    Post subject: Re: Evolution in Action - Creationist Behe Taken Down Sharpl Reply with quote

On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 20:11:36 -0700, Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <1181272296.166979.39240@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>
Quote:
Blake Stacy delivers the final death-blow to Behe's just-published
book, and gives a fine lesson in the *fact* of evolution to boot:
http://www.sunclipse.org/?p=133
"What we're seeing here is not the sudden corruption of two "letters"
in a DNA "sentence," but rather the gradual accumulation of mutations,
eventually gathering together to confer chloroquine resistance upon
the lucky winner."

Budikka

How strange the Behe should attempt to demolish the fact of evolution
by pointing out a specific documented case of it actually occurring.

I thought that he had more brains than that.

--
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johac
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 4:57 am    Post subject: Re: Evolution in Action - Creationist Behe Taken Down Sharpl Reply with quote

In article <uqei63948pabrms4pfpis7a8hfd3s0m0ph@4ax.com>,
Ben Kaufman <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:

Quote:
On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 22:59:29 -0700, johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net
wrote:

In article <1181272296.166979.39240@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:

Blake Stacy delivers the final death-blow to Behe's just-published
book, and gives a fine lesson in the *fact* of evolution to boot:
http://www.sunclipse.org/?p=133
"What we're seeing here is not the sudden corruption of two "letters"
in a DNA "sentence," but rather the gradual accumulation of mutations,
eventually gathering together to confer chloroquine resistance upon
the lucky winner."

It's hard to believe that Behe is still taken seriously. It's still, "We
don't know how (fill in the blank) happened so god....erm, I mean the
Intelligent Designer did it!"

Budikka

He's hoping all of the Creationists buy it for their book shelves.

Except at Liberty University and Bob Jones, I'm sure that the libraries
will put it in their 'fiction' section.
Quote:

Ben
--

John #1782

"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."

- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 4:58 am    Post subject: Re: Evolution in Action - Creationist Behe Taken Down Sharpl Reply with quote

"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:f4cd16$ah6$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
Quote:
In article <1181332498.234198.304860@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> Andy W
vorath@mailinator.com> writes:
On 8 Jun, 05:26, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:
On Jun 7, 11:07 pm, "Atheist are Stooges" <Atheist.Stoo...@Yahoo.com
wrote:





"Budikka666" <budik...@netscape.net> wrote in message

news:1181272296.166979.39240@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

Blake Stacy delivers the final death-blow to Behe's just-published
book, and gives a fine lesson in the *fact* of evolution to boot:
http://www.sunclipse.org/?p=133
"What we're seeing here is not the sudden corruption of two
"letters"
in a DNA "sentence," but rather the gradual accumulation of
mutations,
eventually gathering together to confer chloroquine resistance upon
the lucky winner."

Budikka

Evolution = Magic Monkeys,Flying pigs,talking rocks,protozoa that
build
rockets,breathing mud,invisible labs and invisible observations!

It sounds far more like you're describing Christianity than evolution
there, but how 'bout you and me have a formal debate on the topic
right here in this thread, huh?

If you think your case is so strong and the case for evolution (which
is, BTW, a proven fact) so weak, it ought to be easy for you.

You bring your best positive scientific evidence *for* a creation and
I guarantee you right here and now that I'll refute all of it.

Do you have what it takes to support your claims?

You only really need three things:
1. The science to support your claims
2. The guts to face me in debate
3. A better grasp of grammar than your screen handle suggests you
possess.
(and the third one is optional).

So are you another cowardly creationist posting lies and running, or
are you actually going to show up with the goods? The Internet
community in these world-wide public fora await your answer.

Budikka- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Don't hold your breath. This guy isn't here to discuss anything, he
just wants to insult people. Anyway, I doubt you'd find much sport
here, it would be a battle of wits with an unarmed catatonic quintuple
amputee, and where's the fun in that?


Hey, over on `alt.education' he just accused me of failing
to have any original thoughts -- twice today -- by cutting-and-pasting
anti-atheist screeds off of google.groups. Verbatim.

There ought to be a special word for irony that deep.


-- cary


On you it would be easier to count the rivets left than the rivets missing
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 6:37 am    Post subject: Re: Evolution in Action - Creationist Behe Taken Down Sharpl Reply with quote

"Atheist are Stooges" <Atheist.Stooges@Yahoo.com> wrote in news:4668d601
$0$505$815e3792@news.qwest.net:

Quote:


"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1181272296.166979.39240@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
Blake Stacy delivers the final death-blow to Behe's just-published
book, and gives a fine lesson in the *fact* of evolution to boot:
http://www.sunclipse.org/?p=133
"What we're seeing here is not the sudden corruption of two "letters"
in a DNA "sentence," but rather the gradual accumulation of mutations,
eventually gathering together to confer chloroquine resistance upon
the lucky winner."

Budikka


E<slap

Shaddap. You're not qualified to talk about science.

--
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aa # 1939

Help Prevent Projectile Stupidity
Duct-Tape a Fundie's Mouth Shut Today!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 7:33 am    Post subject: Re: Evolution in Action - Creationist Behe Taken Down Sharpl Reply with quote

On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 20:09:10 +0000 (UTC), cary@afone.as.arizona.edu
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
- Refer: <f4cd16$ah6$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu>
Quote:
In article <1181332498.234198.304860@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> Andy W <vorath@mailinator.com> writes:
On 8 Jun, 05:26, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:
On Jun 7, 11:07 pm, "Atheist are Stooges" <Atheist.Stoo...@Yahoo.com
wrote:





"Budikka666" <budik...@netscape.net> wrote in message

news:1181272296.166979.39240@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

Blake Stacy delivers the final death-blow to Behe's just-published
book, and gives a fine lesson in the *fact* of evolution to boot:
http://www.sunclipse.org/?p=133
"What we're seeing here is not the sudden corruption of two "letters"
in a DNA "sentence," but rather the gradual accumulation of mutations,
eventually gathering together to confer chloroquine resistance upon
the lucky winner."

Budikka

Evolution = Magic Monkeys,Flying pigs,talking rocks,protozoa that build
rockets,breathing mud,invisible labs and invisible observations!

It sounds far more like you're describing Christianity than evolution
there, but how 'bout you and me have a formal debate on the topic
right here in this thread, huh?

If you think your case is so strong and the case for evolution (which
is, BTW, a proven fact) so weak, it ought to be easy for you.

You bring your best positive scientific evidence *for* a creation and
I guarantee you right here and now that I'll refute all of it.

Do you have what it takes to support your claims?

You only really need three things:
1. The science to support your claims
2. The guts to face me in debate
3. A better grasp of grammar than your screen handle suggests you
possess.
(and the third one is optional).

So are you another cowardly creationist posting lies and running, or
are you actually going to show up with the goods? The Internet
community in these world-wide public fora await your answer.

Budikka- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Don't hold your breath. This guy isn't here to discuss anything, he
just wants to insult people. Anyway, I doubt you'd find much sport
here, it would be a battle of wits with an unarmed catatonic quintuple
amputee, and where's the fun in that?


Hey, over on `alt.education' he just accused me of failing
to have any original thoughts -- twice today -- by cutting-and-pasting
anti-atheist screeds off of google.groups. Verbatim.

There ought to be a special word for irony that deep.

There is: "Raytard-ation"

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 7:34 am    Post subject: Re: Evolution in Action - Creationist Behe Taken Down Sharpl Reply with quote

On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 05:43:06 -0700, "Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist
minister" <nonreplyable@heathens.org.uk> wrote:
- Refer: <1181306586.241700.63080@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>
Quote:
On Jun 8, 5:07 am, "Atheist are Stooges" <Atheist.Stoo...@Yahoo.com
wrote:
"Budikka666" <budik...@netscape.net> wrote in message

news:1181272296.166979.39240@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

Blake Stacy delivers the final death-blow to Behe's just-published
book, and gives a fine lesson in the *fact* of evolution to boot:
http://www.sunclipse.org/?p=133
"What we're seeing here is not the sudden corruption of two "letters"
in a DNA "sentence," but rather the gradual accumulation of mutations,
eventually gathering together to confer chloroquine resistance upon
the lucky winner."

Budikka

Evolution = Magic Monkeys,Flying pigs,talking rocks,protozoa that build
rockets,breathing mud,invisible labs and invisible observations!

Wow,the sheer science of it all!

Raytard, you need your medication reviewed - urgently.

Yes, his dose of cyanide needs to be increased.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 7:38 am    Post subject: Re: Evolution in Action - Creationist Behe Taken Down Sharpl Reply with quote

On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 13:00:52 -0700, Andy W <vorath@mailinator.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <1181332852.476533.98680@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>
Quote:
On 8 Jun, 06:59, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 20:11:36 -0700, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net
wrote:
- Refer: <1181272296.166979.39...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com

Blake Stacy delivers the final death-blow to Behe's just-published
book, and gives a fine lesson in the *fact* of evolution to boot:
http://www.sunclipse.org/?p=133
"What we're seeing here is not the sudden corruption of two "letters"
in a DNA "sentence," but rather the gradual accumulation of mutations,
eventually gathering together to confer chloroquine resistance upon
the lucky winner."

Budikka

How strange the Behe should attempt to demolish the fact of evolution
by pointing out a specific documented case of it actually occurring.

I thought that he had more brains than that.

--

Does he do that, though?

All I've heard about ID relates to so-called "irreducible complexity"
and how Darwinism couldn't have made bacterial flagellae. I've never
been able to work out if they are arguing for creation or just a form
of theistic evolution. Does Behe say evolution doesn't happen at all,
or just that it needs divine meddling to work?

Andy

I don't understand the connection between my assertion, and your
subsequent question.
Behe is a died in the wool theist and scientific fraud, but one who
has enough brains to be able to pretend that he is not, on certain odd
occasions.

And is he is trying to disprove the fact of evolution by proving it,
then I have misjudged his admittedly limited intelligence as being far
too high.
Only a suicidal cretinous jackass would do something like that.

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