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Jason Spaceman · Guest

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Dr. Vernon L. Grose describes himself as "almost a Canadian," and when
I met him last week in his offices overlooking the Pentagon in
Alexandria, Va., he cited some compelling facts to prove it. His
parents were born in Manitoba, his father served in the Canadian Army
during the First World War, and five cousins served in the Canadian
forces in the Second. But in one crucial respect, Vern Grose is by no
means typically Canadian. He once seriously challenged entrenched
authority – and won.

That was more than 30 years ago when he was already rising rapidly in
the pantheon of American science. In a startling act of defiance he
took on what seemed the whole upper hierarchy of the scientific world,
found himself denounced and castigated by the notables of that world,
battled them in the media for three years, decisively defeated them,
and was commissioned by the McMillan company to publish a book about
it.

But then, after he had spent a year writing it, McMillan suddenly
announced it would not publish it. Assailed by scientific officialdom
with lucrative textbook publishing contracts for acquiescent
publishers, McMillan had chickened out. Author Grose could only
withdraw temporarily from battle, bloodied if unbowed.. . .

.. . .The Darwinian account of the origins of life, he insists, does
not begin to qualify as scientifically verifiable by the standards
that science itself demands. In a recent Pennsylvania case, for
example, the National Academy of Sciences spelled out these standards.
"In science," it said, "explanations are restricted to those that can
be confirmed from the confirmable data – the results obtained through
observations and experiments that can be substantiated by other
scientists. Anything that can be observed or measured is amendable to
scientific investigation. Explanations that cannot be based upon
empirical evidence are not part of science."

On these grounds the court ruled out intelligent design as scientific.
But on exactly the same grounds, Grose's book contends, Darwinian
theory should also be ruled out. "Pray tell," he demands, "where are
the specific, observable, testable, confirmable data – obtained
through observations and experiments – concerning [Darwin's view of]
origins? There are none. And there never will be."
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Read it at http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55882

J. Spaceman

Greg Guarino · Guest

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