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Haonus
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 11:01 am    Post subject: A question,help me Reply with quote

Hey,guys!
choose SOME units from{7,9,14,17,18,25,28,34,36}
goal:The sum of the units you choosed is 100

tell me your great arithmetic,thankx
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kundan
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 11:01 am    Post subject: Re: A question,help me Reply with quote

On May 22, 11:53 am, Haonus <kyli...@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
Hey,guys!
choose SOME units from{7,9,14,17,18,25,28,34,36}
goal:The sum of the units you choosed is 100

tell me your great arithmetic,thankx

7+9+14+34+36=100
I don't understand the purpose of the question.is it supposed to be
hard?
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Haonus
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 8:33 am    Post subject: Re: A question,help me Reply with quote

On May 22, 4:09 pm, kundan <kundan.it...@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On May 22, 11:53 am,Haonus<kyli...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey,guys!
choose SOME units from{7,9,14,17,18,25,28,34,36}
goal:The sum of the units you choosed is 100

tell me your great arithmetic,thankx

7+9+14+34+36=100
I don't understand the purpose of the question.is it supposed to be
hard?

My bad.The purpose is how many subsets,the sum is 100,could you find?
Just like 7,9,14,34,36 is a subset. I wanna know a good arithmetic to
compute every set.
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Gerry Myerson
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 8:47 am    Post subject: Re: A question,help me Reply with quote

In article <1179821391.405159.23640@y18g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
kundan <kundan.itbhu@gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
On May 22, 11:53 am, Haonus <kyli...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey,guys!
choose SOME units from{7,9,14,17,18,25,28,34,36}
goal:The sum of the units you choosed is 100

tell me your great arithmetic,thankx

7+9+14+34+36=100
I don't understand the purpose of the question.is it supposed to be
hard?

It is a simple instance of what is believed to be, in general,
a very hard problem, known as the knapsack problem.
You could look it up.

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Gerry Myerson (gerry@maths.mq.edi.ai) (i -> u for email)
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Haonus
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 11:01 am    Post subject: Re: A question,help me Reply with quote

On May 23, 10:29 pm, Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demun...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
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Gerry Myerson <g...@maths.mq.edi.ai.i2u4email> writes:
In article <1179821391.405159.23...@y18g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
kundan <kundan.it...@gmail.com> wrote:

On May 22, 11:53 am,Haonus<kyli...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey,guys!
choose SOME units from{7,9,14,17,18,25,28,34,36}
goal:The sum of the units you choosed is 100

tell me your great arithmetic,thankx

7+9+14+34+36=100
I don't understand the purpose of the question.is it supposed to be
hard?

It is a simple instance of what is believed to be, in general,
a very hard problem, known as the knapsack problem.
You could look it up.

That won't find all

? v=[7,9,14,17,18,25,28,34,36];p=1+O(x^101);for(i=1,#v,p*=(1+x^v[i]));polcoef­f(p,100)
5

solutions.

The trivial algorithm to find all solutions is O(2^9)=512 steps.
However, you can meet-in-the-middle for O(2^5)+O(2^4)=48 slightly harder steps.

{7,9,14,17} can yield sums of S={0,7,9,14,16,17,21,23,24,26,30,31,33,38,40,47}
Stick these values, plus the combination that formed them, in a hash or a bitmap.

Looking at the power set of {18,25,28,34,36}, in no particular order
{} and all singletons can't make 100-n for any n in S, nor any pairs
less than 53.
18+36=54, 46 not in S
25+28=53, 47 in S => {7,9,14,17,25,28} is a solution
25+34=59, 41 not in S
25+36=61, 39 not in S
28+34=62, 38 in S => {7,14,17,28,34} is a solution
28+36=64, 36 not in S
34+36=70, 30 in S => {7,9,14,34,36} is a solution
etc.

(Done by hand, may have errors.)

Of course, that's still exponential, you just halved the exponent.
However, that technique is hot to trot long after the naive algorithm
explodes. I don't believe it can be bettered, deterministically.

Phil
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Hi Phil
Thanks for your arithmetic.
why did you choose a subset{7,9,14,17}? I think you have compute the
MEAN of the set{7,9,14,17,18,25,28,34,36},am I right?

Hannus
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