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Average Joe
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 9:13 am    Post subject: you have no argument Reply with quote

let's suppose for a minute that evolution, abiogenesis and big bang,
etc., happen

these just might be the *means* of creation

you still have no argument against creation itself


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Dale
http://www.vedantasite.org
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Shane
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 9:42 am    Post subject: Re: you have no argument Reply with quote

On 22 May 2007 06:13:25 +0200, Average Joe wrote:

Quote:
let's suppose for a minute that evolution, abiogenesis and big bang,
etc., happen

I can suppose for a lot longer than that.

Quote:
these just might be the *means* of creation

Indeed they might, there are any number of theistic evolutionists in
this newsgroup, who would agree.

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you still have no argument against creation itself

Whilst I cannot speak for anyone esle on t.o., for me, the argument is
not against creation per se, but against the total lack of evidence
for a creator.

Of course everything you suggest here is also true of last
thursdayism. So what evidence do you have that refutes last
thursdayism? And if you have none, whay are you not a proponent of it?
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A.Carlson
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 10:06 am    Post subject: Re: you have no argument Reply with quote

On 22 May 2007 06:13:25 +0200, Average Joe
<averagejoe@vedantasite.org> wrote:

Quote:
let's suppose for a minute that evolution, abiogenesis and big bang,
etc., happen

And while we're at it, why don't we just suppose that we accept this
'fact of life' because of the overwhelming amount of evidence in
support of them and not just for the sake of argument.

Quote:
these just might be the *means* of creation

And then again they might not be!

Quote:
you still have no argument against creation itself

Nor need we since you are the one making the claim. The burden of
proof is yours.
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Ross Langerak
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 10:41 am    Post subject: Re: you have no argument Reply with quote

"Average Joe" <averagejoe@vedantasite.org> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.05.22.04.16.58@vedantasite.org...
Quote:
let's suppose for a minute that evolution, abiogenesis and big bang,
etc., happen

these just might be the *means* of creation

you still have no argument against creation itself

So you admit that Odin may have used the Big Bang, abiogenesis, and
evolution to create everything?
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R. Baldwin
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 10:44 am    Post subject: Re: you have no argument Reply with quote

"Average Joe" <averagejoe@vedantasite.org> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.05.22.04.16.58@vedantasite.org...
Quote:
let's suppose for a minute that evolution, abiogenesis and big bang,
etc., happen

these just might be the *means* of creation

you still have no argument against creation itself


So what? I'm not particularly interested in making an argument against
creation itself.
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Bodega
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 10:51 am    Post subject: Re: you have no argument Reply with quote

On May 21, 9:13 pm, Average Joe <average...@vedantasite.org> wrote:
Quote:
let's suppose for a minute that evolution, abiogenesis and big bang,
etc., happen

these just might be the *means* of creation

you still have no argument against creation itself


And you have no argument for the supernatural. But that topic is not
within the purview of science. Haven't you heard?
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DougC
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 11:00 am    Post subject: Re: you have no argument Reply with quote

Average Joe says:

Quote:
let's suppose for a minute that evolution, abiogenesis and big bang,
etc., happen

No. All three of those are theories based on observations/evidence.

Quote:
these just might be the *means* of creation

Wonderful. Then any Creator would not have anti-science nitwits
trying to argue against the theories. Wish it were so.

Quote:
you still have no argument against creation itself

And you have no argument against unicorns.

Doug Chandler
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Greg G.
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 8:47 am    Post subject: Re: you have no argument Reply with quote

On May 23, 10:06 pm, Lorentz <drosen0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
Let's suppose for a minute that gravity happens. This just might be the way
in which the Invisible Pink Unicorn moves planets around. You still have no
argument against the Invisible Pink Unicorn.

Yes I can.
1) If the Unicorn is Pink, he can not be Invisible. This is a logical
contradiction.

No, if the IPU is invisible, you cannot say what color he is. We know
that he is pink by faith, but we know he is invisible because we can't
see him.

Quote:
2) I can argue with him on any topic we disagree on, whether or not it
involves gravity. We have our Constitutional right of free
expression.

When you read "You still have no argument against the Invisible Pink
Unicorn" think of two ex-heavyweight boxers in cheap suits punctuating
the sentence with "capiche".

--
Greg G.

Capiche?
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