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 Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 11:02 am Post subject: Chuck Norris: How to outlaw Christianity (Steps 2 & 3) |
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Dawkins condemns Christians for being narrow minded and non-adaptive
to other cultures which believed in Thor or Zeus, yet he is unwavering
in disrespecting any other creation authority except Western science.
What about the wisdom of African, Middle-Eastern or Far-Eastern sages,
shamans, or religious figures? Just because science can explain many
things in the natural realm, does that mean it owns the corner market
on metaphysics and God?
Is it possible that the scientific worldview is inferior to reveal the
truths behind the curtain of creation?
Even Paul Davies, the renown British-born physicist, agnostic,
professor of cosmology, quantum field theory, and astrobiology, said
to Time, "Science, God, and Man," that no one can rightfully say there
is no God. "Agnosticism – reserving judgment about divine purpose –
remains as defensible as ever, but atheism – the confident denial of
divine purpose – becomes trickier. If you admit that we can't peer
behind a curtain, how can you be sure there's nothing there?"
John Horgan, a former senior staff writer for Scientific American and
the Director of the Center for Science Writings at the Stevens
Institute of Technology, wrote a book titled, "The End of Science." In
it he discusses the futility of men like Oxford's Dawkins, Cambridge's
Hawking, and others pursuit to discover a "theory of everything." He
agrees with Paul Davies in purporting that we must face the limits of
science in the twilight of the scientific age, opting that the
discovery of ultimate answers about the universe will not rely in
rationale and empirical examination but possibly a metaphysical
practice. (A striking similarity to the words in the Bible, "By faith
we understand that the universe was formed at God's command...")
Of course for men like Harris, Dawkins, and other atheists, the
thought that science cannot provide these ultimate answers must be a
horrifying reality to face, as their whole lives depend upon the
western-scientific paradigm of reality. Their predicament reminds me
of the words of Robert Jastrow, American astronomer, physicist, and
cosmologist, from his work, "God and the Astronomers"
The universe has a beginning….This is an exceedingly strange
development, unexpected by all but the theologians. They have always
accepted the word of the Bible: In the beginning God created heaven
and earth….For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power
of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the
mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he
pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of
theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.
Once again the Bible is proven correct, "The fool has said in his
heart, 'There is no god.'"
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Read it at http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55789
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| Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 11:02 am Post subject: Re: Chuck Norris: How to outlaw Christianity (Steps 2 & 3) |
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On May 21, 8:31 am, Jason Spaceman <notrea...@jspaceman.homelinux.org>
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From the article:
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Dawkins condemns Christians for being narrow minded and non-adaptive
to other cultures which believed in Thor or Zeus, yet he is unwavering
in disrespecting any other creation authority except Western science.
What about the wisdom of African, Middle-Eastern or Far-Eastern sages,
shamans, or religious figures? Just because science can explain many
things in the natural realm, does that mean it owns the corner market
on metaphysics and God?
Is it possible that the scientific worldview is inferior to reveal the
truths behind the curtain of creation?
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Well, DUH.
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Even Paul Davies, the renown British-born physicist, agnostic,
professor of cosmology, quantum field theory, and astrobiology, said
to Time, "Science, God, and Man," that no one can rightfully say there
is no God. "Agnosticism - reserving judgment about divine purpose -
remains as defensible as ever, but atheism - the confident denial of
divine purpose
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Or the reasonable assumption that God or gods, like, don't exist,
based on the fact that we can't see them and they don't actually do
anything except make humans say very odd stuff.
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- becomes trickier. If you admit that we can't peer
behind a curtain, how can you be sure there's nothing there?"
John Horgan, a former senior staff writer for Scientific American and
the Director of the Center for Science Writings at the Stevens
Institute of Technology, wrote a book titled, "The End of Science." In
it he discusses the futility of men like Oxford's Dawkins, Cambridge's
Hawking, and others pursuit to discover a "theory of everything." He
agrees with Paul Davies in purporting that we must face the limits of
science in the twilight of the scientific age, opting that the
discovery of ultimate answers about the universe will not rely in
rationale and empirical examination but possibly a metaphysical
practice. (A striking similarity to the words in the Bible, "By faith
we understand that the universe was formed at God's command...")
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The limits of science. Because none of us are aware of those, are we?
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Of course for men like Harris, Dawkins, and other atheists, the
thought that science cannot provide these ultimate answers must be a
horrifying reality to face, as their whole lives depend upon the
western-scientific paradigm of reality.
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Horrifying reality, yeah, right. Because obviously Dawkins doesn't
know the limits of science, as any reading of his several books on the
subject will tell you. Have you read his books? They're your
'horrifying reality'.
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Their predicament reminds me
of the words of Robert Jastrow, American astronomer, physicist, and
cosmologist, from his work, "God and the Astronomers"
The universe has a beginning....This is an exceedingly strange
development, unexpected by all but the theologians.
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Did they also expect bats to be closely related to birds? It's good
for science, that Bible, isn't it?
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They have always
accepted the word of the Bible: In the beginning God created heaven
and earth....For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power
of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the
mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he
pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of
theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.
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Oh noes! I'm sure they will have great fun discussing thermodynamics,
geology, etc. The Bible's all about that you know.
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Once again the Bible is proven correct, "The fool has said in his
heart, 'There is no god.'"
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Well, I'm glad the Bible isn't as limited as that science crap.
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sarcastic, since, like, THE STONE AGE. |
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George
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| Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 11:02 am Post subject: Re: Chuck Norris: How to outlaw Christianity (Steps 2 & 3) |
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"Jason Spaceman" <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote in message
news:gli253lbe7vbmujj79t1ne4cg8um0e768l@4ax.com...
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From the article:
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Dawkins condemns Christians for being narrow minded and non-adaptive
to other cultures which believed in Thor or Zeus, yet he is unwavering
in disrespecting any other creation authority except Western science.
What about the wisdom of African, Middle-Eastern or Far-Eastern sages,
shamans, or religious figures? Just because science can explain many
things in the natural realm, does that mean it owns the corner market
on metaphysics and God?
Is it possible that the scientific worldview is inferior to reveal the
truths behind the curtain of creation?
Even Paul Davies, the renown British-born physicist, agnostic,
professor of cosmology, quantum field theory, and astrobiology, said
to Time, "Science, God, and Man," that no one can rightfully say there
is no God. "Agnosticism - reserving judgment about divine purpose -
remains as defensible as ever, but atheism - the confident denial of
divine purpose - becomes trickier. If you admit that we can't peer
behind a curtain, how can you be sure there's nothing there?"
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Who said we haven't peered behind the curtain? And just because we aren't
100% sure that there is nothing there is not a valid reason for declaring
that something actually is there. 0.9 may not be 1.0 but it's close enough
for army work.
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John Horgan, a former senior staff writer for Scientific American and
the Director of the Center for Science Writings at the Stevens
Institute of Technology, wrote a book titled, "The End of Science." In
it he discusses the futility of men like Oxford's Dawkins, Cambridge's
Hawking, and others pursuit to discover a "theory of everything." He
agrees with Paul Davies in purporting that we must face the limits of
science in the twilight of the scientific age,
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Twilight? Funny, I thought we had just gotten started? We likely could
have gotten started much earlier had it not been for some inconveniences
along the way, THE INQUISITION, for instance.
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 7:23 am Post subject: Re: Chuck Norris: How to outlaw Christianity (Steps 2 & 3) |
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Dawkins condemns Christians for being narrow minded and non-adaptive
to other cultures which believed in Thor or Zeus, yet he is unwavering
in disrespecting any other creation authority except Western science.
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ROTFL! This means the correct answer to a question depends upon
culture? Maybe that's why I flunked algebra.
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 8:26 am Post subject: Re: Chuck Norris: How to outlaw Christianity (Steps 2 & 3) |
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On May 21, 7:23 pm, Desertphile <desertph...@nospam.org> wrote:
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Dawkins condemns Christians for being narrow minded and non-adaptive
to other cultures which believed in Thor or Zeus, yet he is unwavering
in disrespecting any other creation authority except Western science.
ROTFL! This means the correct answer to a question depends upon
culture? Maybe that's why I flunked algebra.
No, it means that you should have sued them for discrimitating against |
your alternative X education. |
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 10:17 am Post subject: Re: Chuck Norris: How to outlaw Christianity (Steps 2 & 3) |
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<snip>
On 21-May-2007, Rusty Sites <SpameYouToo@spamex.com> wrote:
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I'm still waiting for a mountain to get moved. Rabid theists often
proclaim "But faith can move *mountains*!!!!!" To which I reply,
"Name one that's been moved. Ever."
Faith doesn't move mountains, but it does level buildings.
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Well put, sir. Well put. I wish it were not true.
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