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 Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 11:05 am Post subject: WingNutDaily: Intelligent Design torpedoes tenure |
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Profs say beliefs played role in Iowa State decision
Posted: May 19, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern
© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com
Two faculty members at Iowa State University have conceded that the
beliefs of assistant professor of astronomy and physics Guillermo
Gonzalez, co-author of "The Privileged Planet: How Our Place in the
Cosmos Is Designed for Discovery," played a part in the school's
decision to deny him tenure.
A story to be published in World Magazine quotes professor Eli
Rosenberg, chairman of the physics and astronomy department at the
school, insisting that intelligent design "was not an overriding
factor" in the decision but that it "played into" the process.
The article also reported that astronomy professor Curtis Struck said
he was unsurprised by the denial because Gonzales "includes some
things in his astronomy resume that other people regard as taking a
coincidence too far." His reference apparently was to the issue of
intelligent design.
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Read it at http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55774
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Jason Spaceman
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 11:05 am Post subject: Re: WingNutDaily: Intelligent Design torpedoes tenure |
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The World Magazine story is at http://www.worldmag.com/articles/12982
But you'll need a paid subscription to read the whole thing.
J. Spaceman |
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MatthewTan
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 11:05 am Post subject: Re: WingNutDaily: Intelligent Design torpedoes tenure |
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A search on "Guillermo Gonzalez astro" at Google Scholars show up 460
articles. Many of Dr. Gonzalez's articles are published in prestigious
scientific journals. One article even appeared on the cover of
Scientific American (2001).
Support Dr. Gonzalez. Support academic freedom.
Gonzalez is coauthor of:
1. The Privileged Planet
2. Observational Astronomy Combat materialism (a high-level-university
astronomy textbook)
http://www.elearningstreams.com/origins/Gonzalez.html.
Read more on ID.
http://www.elearningstreams.com/origins/index.html
<a href="http://www.elearningstreams.com/origins/
Gonzalez.html.">Support Gonzalez </a> |
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MatthewTan
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 11:05 am Post subject: Re: WingNutDaily: Intelligent Design torpedoes tenure |
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A search on "Guillermo Gonzalez astro" at Google Scholars show up 460
articles. Many of Dr. Gonzalez's articles are published in prestigious
scientific journals. One article even appeared on the cover of
Scientific American (2001).
Support Dr. Gonzalez. Support academic freedom.
Gonzalez is coauthor of:
1. The Privileged Planet
2. Observational Astronomy Combat materialism (a high-level-university
astronomy textbook)
http://www.elearningstreams.com/origins/Gonzalez.html.
Read more on ID.
http://www.elearningstreams.com/origins/index.html
<a href="http://www.elearningstreams.com/origins/
Gonzalez.html.">Support Gonzalez </a> |
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Kleuskes & Moos
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 11:05 am Post subject: Re: WingNutDaily: Intelligent Design torpedoes tenure |
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On 19 mei, 09:50, MatthewTan <elearningstre...@gmail.com> wrote:
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A search on "Guillermo Gonzalez astro" at Google Scholars show up 460
articles. Many of Dr. Gonzalez's articles are published in prestigious
scientific journals. One article even appeared on the cover of
Scientific American (2001).
Support Dr. Gonzalez. Support academic freedom.
Gonzalez is coauthor of:
1. The Privileged Planet
2. Observational Astronomy Combat materialism (a high-level-university
astronomy textbook)http://www.elearningstreams.com/origins/Gonzalez.html.
Read more on ID.http://www.elearningstreams.com/origins/index.html
a href="http://www.elearningstreams.com/origins/
Gonzalez.html.">Support Gonzalez </a
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Given his contributions to those publications, i'd say his academic
record is blamished. You cannot do pseudo-science and expect this
_not_ to reflect on your scientific reputation.
Besides, tenure should not be a popularity-poll of ideas and
certainl;y not a political descision.. |
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Ernest Major
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 11:05 am Post subject: Re: WingNutDaily: Intelligent Design torpedoes tenure |
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In message <1179561002.640622.174840@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
MatthewTan <elearningstreams@gmail.com> writes
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A search on "Guillermo Gonzalez astro" at Google Scholars show up 460
articles. Many of Dr. Gonzalez's articles are published in prestigious
scientific journals. One article even appeared on the cover of
Scientific American (2001).
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If I may remind you, the majority, arguably the great majority, of those
articles are not by the American Guillermo Gonzalez. Some are by a
Colombian astronomer, others by Guillermo Gonzalez-Casada, others by
groups of authors who share the names Guillermo and Gonzales between
them, others, I presume, are articles referencing Guillermo Gonzalez's
articles, and so on. While your claim is literally true, it is
misleading, and I am disappointed that you've repeated it.
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Mike Dworetsky
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 11:05 am Post subject: Re: WingNutDaily: Intelligent Design torpedoes tenure |
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"MatthewTan" <elearningstreams@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1179561071.136303.60520@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
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A search on "Guillermo Gonzalez astro" at Google Scholars show up 460
articles. Many of Dr. Gonzalez's articles are published in prestigious
scientific journals. One article even appeared on the cover of
Scientific American (2001).
Support Dr. Gonzalez. Support academic freedom.
Gonzalez is coauthor of:
1. The Privileged Planet
2. Observational Astronomy Combat materialism (a high-level-university
astronomy textbook)
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The title is Observational Astronomy (the authors said nothing about
materialism, except to use it as a guiding principle at every stage of the
text) and it is a solid book aimed at advanced undergraduate astronomy
majors at university. But basically, it's a revision of the first author's
(D. Scott Birney) original edition from c. 1991. Gonzalez's contribution
was undoubtedly (a) respectable and (b) in no way supported or even
mentioned Intelligent Design concepts.
--
Mike Dworetsky
(Remove pants sp*mbl*ck to reply) |
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Roy Culley
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 11:05 am Post subject: Re: WingNutDaily: Intelligent Design torpedoes tenure |
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<1179561071.136303.60520@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
MatthewTan <elearningstreams@gmail.com> writes:
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A search on "Guillermo Gonzalez astro" at Google Scholars show up
460 articles. Many of Dr. Gonzalez's articles are published in
prestigious scientific journals. One article even appeared on the
cover of Scientific American (2001).
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A search on '"Guillermo Gonzalez" astro' at Google Scholars:
Results 1 - 10 of about 120 for "Guillermo Gonzalez" astro
Either you don't know how to search google or you were being
deliberately misleading. |
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Rusty Sites
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| Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 9:14 am Post subject: Re: WingNutDaily: Intelligent Design torpedoes tenure |
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Ron O wrote:
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On May 19, 1:48 am, Jason Spaceman <notrea...@jspaceman.homelinux.org
wrote:
From the article:
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Profs say beliefs played role in Iowa State decision
Posted: May 19, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern
© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com
Two faculty members at Iowa State University have conceded that the
beliefs of assistant professor of astronomy and physics Guillermo
Gonzalez, co-author of "The Privileged Planet: How Our Place in the
Cosmos Is Designed for Discovery," played a part in the school's
decision to deny him tenure.
A story to be published in World Magazine quotes professor Eli
Rosenberg, chairman of the physics and astronomy department at the
school, insisting that intelligent design "was not an overriding
factor" in the decision but that it "played into" the process.
The article also reported that astronomy professor Curtis Struck said
he was unsurprised by the denial because Gonzales "includes some
things in his astronomy resume that other people regard as taking a
coincidence too far." His reference apparently was to the issue of
intelligent design.
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Read it athttp://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55774
J. Spaceman
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The Discovery Institute, a Seattle group that supports the discussion
of intelligent design evidence, has launched an action alert in
support of Gonzalez.
"I think if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it likely is a
duck," John West, a senior fellow at the institute, said. "There are
two issues here: academic freedom and the First Amendment."
Gonzalez has reported he does not teach intelligent design at the
school.
He also has declined to comment on why he believes he has now been
denied tenure, but John G. West, associate director of the Center for
Science and Culture at the Discovery Institute called it "ideological
discrimination."
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When I read the article, it was the "ideological discrimination" comment
that struck me most. Isn't a spokesperson for DI admitting, probably
inadvertently, that the whole issue of ID is ideological rather than
scientific? |
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