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radium ant farm
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 Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:48 am Post subject: Re: Pelosi works with Syria to defeat US troops in Iraq. |
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Click@Knicklas.com wrote:
On 24 Apr 2001 17:43:01 GMT Gary Roselles <rosel...@idt.net> wrote (in
reply to an Op-Ed by African-American Rev. Jesse Lee Patterson): 'Say
"yes Massa", Uncle Tom.'
On 18 Feb 2007 14:05:28 -0700 Gary Roselles <C...@Knicklas.com> "Then
why was you mother stupid enough to fuck all them black guys?"
On 6 April 2006 10:23:19 -0800, Gary Roselles <C...@Knicklas.com>
wrote "Yeah, there's a real fucking credible authority----Hitchens a
faggot socialist."
On 11 Mar 2001 5:49:44 -0800, Gary Roselles <rosel...@idt.net> wrote:
"The word faggot just describes a gay person"
On Thu, 28 Dec 2000 19:27:54 GMT, Gary Roselles
<rosel...@idt.net>wrote: "Bush's Uncle tom Cabinet is good first step
for GOP"
On Thu, 28 Dec 2000 19:27:54 GMT, Gary Roselles <rosel...@idt.net>
wrote:"You actually think that placing blackskinned, white thinking
people is going to gain anything with real minorities?"
On 30 Oct 2006 11:13:21 -0800, Gary Roselles <C...@Knicklas.com>
wrote: "brown niggers need to be taken out"
On 2 Jul 2005 10:43:03 -0800, Gary Roselles <C...@Knicklas.com> wrote:
"becauseof their rap speech"
On 23 Aug 2006 04:29:00 -0700, Gary Roselles <C...@KNICKLAS.COM>
wrote: "What the fuck would a dumb cocksucker like (distinguished
black scholar) Sowell, who sits out at Stanford, never having worked a
day in his Uncle Tom life, know anything?"
On 18 Dec 2000 20:26:48 GMT Gary Roselles <rosel...@idt.net> wrote (of
Colin Powell): "It's apparant[sic] he's being an uncle tom to appease
voters."
On Fri, 16 Mar 2001 06:43:37 GMT Gary Roselles <rosel...@rapidnet.com>
wrote (of Michael Steele): "GOP Poised to Pick Uncle Tom in MD"
On 30 Jun 2005 8:51:19 -0800, Gary Roselles <C...@Knicklas.com> wrote:
"They talk in black english" |
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Phlip
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:59 pm Post subject: Re: Pelosi works with Syria to defeat US troops in Iraq. |
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radium ant farm wrote:
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If Congress didn't fund the troops, they would retreat, and come home
alive. But someone else would get Iraq's oil.
Like say...al Qaeda!
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So the difference here is between oil profits going to terrorists who
get good press, or terrorists who are our "official enemies"?
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radium ant farm
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:22 pm Post subject: Re: Pelosi works with Syria to defeat US troops in Iraq. |
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Phlip wrote:
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radium ant farm wrote:
If Congress didn't fund the troops, they would retreat, and come home
alive. But someone else would get Iraq's oil.
Like say...al Qaeda!
So the difference here is between oil profits going to terrorists who
get good press, or terrorists who are our "official enemies"?
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The difference is AQ would HALT the flow of oil completely, you fucking
MORON! |
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Phlip
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:31 pm Post subject: Re: Pelosi works with Syria to defeat US troops in Iraq. |
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radium ant farm wrote:
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So the difference here is between oil profits going to terrorists who
get good press, or terrorists who are our "official enemies"?
The difference is AQ would HALT the flow of oil completely, you fucking
MORON!
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Oh, I get it. They, uh, are rich, so they don't need to /sell/ the
oil, so they would just turn off the pumps. Sure!
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radium ant farm
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:36 pm Post subject: Re: Pelosi works with Syria to defeat US troops in Iraq. |
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Phlip wrote:
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radium ant farm wrote:
So the difference here is between oil profits going to terrorists who
get good press, or terrorists who are our "official enemies"?
The difference is AQ would HALT the flow of oil completely, you fucking
MORON!
Oh, I get it. They, uh, are rich, so they don't need to /sell/ the
oil, so they would just turn off the pumps. Sure!
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Have you read their statements on the matter?
http://www.jamestown.org/terrorism/news/article.php?articleid=2369910
Saudi Arabia and its oil have long been in bin Laden's thoughts; in
1996, he said, "The ordinary Saudi knows that his country is the largest
oil producer in the world, yet at the same time he is suffering from
taxes and bad services…Our country has become a colony of America…Saudis
know their real enemy is America" (UPI Intelligence Watch, March 21, 2005).
Neighboring Iraq demonstrates the crippling effects of an insurgency on
oil installations. Since June 2003, there have been 298 recorded attacks
against Iraqi oil facilities (Institute for the Analysis of Global
Security, http://www.iags.org/iraqpipelinewatch.htm). As of December
2005, Iraqi production was averaging around 1.9 million barrels per day
as compared with its January 2003 2.58 million barrels per day
production rate (U.S. Energy Information Administration, December 2005).
Moreover, the costs of infrastructure attacks are becoming staggering,
with the Iraqi oil ministry announcing on February 19 that insurgent
attacks had cost the oil industry $6.25 billion in lost revenue during
2005.
Aside from Saudi crude oil production capacity being the world's
largest, at 10.5-11 million barrels per day, Saudi Arabia, along with
the United Arab Emirates, controls the world's only significant excess
production capacity, an extra 2.5-3 million barrels per day. This makes
the kingdom the world's only guarantor of liquidity in the oil market.
The Saudi economy is heavily dependent on energy, with oil export
revenues bringing in around 90-95 percent of total Saudi export
earnings, and generating around 40 percent of the country's gross
domestic product.
The country's hydrocarbon infrastructure, with its massive production
fields, ports and 10,000 miles of pipelines, presents a number of
opportunities for potential attackers, whose success would have
implications far beyond the kingdom, driving the world into recession or
depression as energy costs soar.
Over half of Saudi Arabia's oil reserves are contained in just eight
massive fields, including the huge 130-mile long, 20-mile wide Ghawar
field, covering 2,600 square miles. Ghawar alone accounts for nearly
half of Saudi Arabia's total oil production capacity. Aramco's skein of
pipelines depends on 30 pumping stations, powered by six generators,
which would shut down the flow if destroyed. Port facilities are
concentrated on a 20-mile stretch of Persian Gulf shoreline from Juaymah
to al-Khobar.
Saudi Arabia's offshore Safaniya oilfield is the largest of its kind in
the world, with estimated reserves of 35 billion barrels. Continuing the
trend toward gigantism, the Abqaiq refinery 25 miles inland from the
Gulf of Bahrain processes about two-thirds of Saudi Arabia's crude oil.
On the Persian Gulf, Saudi Arabia's Ras Tanura facility is the world's
largest offshore oil loading facility, accounting for a tenth of the
world's daily oil supply. A second loading facility is at Ras
al-Juaymah, while Yanbu terminal is located on the Red Sea, supplied
from Abqaiq via the 750-mile East-West pipeline.
Terrorist attacks could be easily launched against onshore facilities
and tankers. Over 60 percent of the world's oil is shipped on 3,500
tankers through a small number of "chokepoints" including the Strait of
Hormuz, which alone transits 13 million barrels of oil per day.
Al-Qaeda has already carried out maritime attacks on both warships and
tankers. On October 6, 2002, the 299,364 DWT-ton French Very Large Crude
Carrier (VLCC) tanker Limburg, carrying a cargo of 397,000 barrels of
crude from Iran to Malaysia, was rammed by an explosives-laden boat off
the port of Ash Shihr at Mukalla, 353 miles east of Aden. A crewman was
killed and the double-hulled tanker was breached. The impact on the
Yemeni economy was immediate, as maritime insurers tripled their rates.
Al-Qaeda issued a statement following the attack warning that it "was
not an incidental strike at a passing tanker but...on the international
oil-carrying line in the full sense of the word," prompting the U.S.
Navy's Maritime Liaison Office in Bahrain to issue a warning stating
that "Shipmasters should exercise extreme caution when
transiting...strategic chokepoints such as the Strait of Hormuz, or Bab
el-Mandeb, or...traditional high-threat areas such as along the Horn of
Africa."
Al-Qaeda's cadre of maritime specialists recently received a boost when
on February 3, 23 prisoners escaped from a jail in Sanaa. Five days
later, Interpol issued a global security alert, a Red Notice, to its 184
member states, as law enforcement officials believe that at least 13 of
the fugitives have links to al-Qaeda. Among those who broke out of the
prison was Jamal al-Badawi, who was serving a 10-year sentence for his
part in the October 12, 2000 bombing of the destroyer USS Cole in Aden
harbor during a refueling stop; 17 sailors died and 39 more were injured
in the attack.
The most worrisome scenario revolves around al-Qaeda crashing a hijacked
commercial passenger jet into an oil installation. To consider just one
scenario, a jetliner crashing into the Ras Tanura facility could remove
10 percent of the world's energy imports in one shot.
Former CIA agent Robert Baer has considered the implications of
terrorist attacks on Saudi oil facilities, writing, "At the least, a
moderate-to-severe attack on Abqaiq would slow average production there
from 6.8 million barrels a day to roughly a million barrels for the
first two months post-attack, a loss equivalent to approximately
one-third of America's current daily consumption of crude oil. Even as
long as seven months after an attack, Abqaiq output would still be about
40 percent of pre-attack output, as much as four million barrels below
normal—roughly equal to what all of the OPEC partners collectively took
out of production during the devastating 1973 embargo" (see Robert
Baer's Sleeping with the Devil: How Washington Sold our Soul for Saudi
Crude). An al-Qaeda assault on Abqaiq would have the added propaganda
effect of killing Americans. Abqaiq is an oil-company town; in 2005,
nearly half of its approximately 2,000 inhabitants were U.S. citizens.
In the last few years, the Saudis have moved to tighten security around
their oil installations. Unlike in Iraq, where insurgent attacks are
focused mainly on the country's hydrocarbon infrastructure, thus far
al-Qaeda attacks in Saudi Arabia have focused on "soft targets," namely
the 3,000 foreign oil workers employed in the kingdom.
On December 16, 2004, bin Laden released an audiotape making an explicit
connection between U.S. forces in Iraq and the region's oil reserves; in
the audiotape, he praised the terrorists who attacked the U.S. Consulate
in Jeddah. Bin Laden said, "Targeting America in Iraq in terms of
economy and losses in life is a golden and unique opportunity. Do not
waste it only to regret it later. One of the most important reasons that
led our enemies to control our land is the theft of our oil. Do
everything you can to stop the biggest plundering operation in
history—the plundering of the resources of the present and future
generations in collusion with the agents and the aliens...Be active and
prevent them from reaching the oil, and mount your operations
accordingly, particularly in Iraq and the Gulf, for this is their fate"
(BBC, December 16, 2004). Three days later, the "al-Qaeda Organization
in the Arabian Peninsula" posted a message on its website urging its
members "to strike all foreign targets and the hideouts of the tyrants
to rid the peninsula of the infidels and their supporters. We call on
all the mujahideen to target the sources of oil which do not serve the
Islamic nation but serve the enemies of the nation" (Agence France
Press, December 19, 2004).
Judging by al-Qaeda's pronouncements, an attack on Saudi Arabian oil
facilities seems to be only a matter of time. In terms of the global
impact of such a strike, Robert Baer provides an extreme but not
altogether improbable scenario: "Such an attack would be more
economically damaging than a dirty nuclear bomb set off in midtown
Manhattan or across from the White House in Lafayette Square…[and] would
be enough to bring the world's oil-addicted economies to their knees,
America's along with them." |
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:40 pm Post subject: Re: Pelosi works with Syria to defeat US troops in Iraq. |
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radium ant farm wrote:
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Have you read their statements on the matter?
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No, but thanks.
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http://www.jamestown.org/terrorism/news/article.php?articleid=2369910
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Looks to me like someone's trying to raise the cost of oil...
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:28 pm Post subject: Re: Pelosi works with Syria to defeat US troops in Iraq. |
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On Apr 3, 2:52 pm, "Crescentius Vespasianus" <jazzyb...@hotmail.com>
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Pelosi works with Syria to defeat US troops in Iraq.
Democrats know, after they sided with the anti-war extremists in their
party, that their continuance in power depends on a US defeat in Iraq. So
Nancy Pelosi has cut off funds to our troops, and is now in Syria, most
likely to pressure Syria to step up the insurgency against US troops, that
without the funds the troops won't be able to defend themselves. The
Democrats feel if they can get the terrorists to slaughter our US troops,
the people will rise up to impeach Bush. They are wrong. The one's who
will be run out of office, will be the Democrats, if they aren't all
arrested for treason first.
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is this your attempt to see how many lies you can get in one post?
Damn, you're more of a k00k than spammy. |
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:52 pm Post subject: Re: Pelosi works with Syria to defeat US troops in Iraq. |
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Tim Crowley wrote:
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is this your attempt to see how many lies you can get in one post?
Damn, you're more of a k00k than spammy.
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But don't you see? All those lies are just little temporary
compromises, to server the Greater Good!
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| Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:08 am Post subject: Re: Pelosi works with Syria to defeat US troops in Iraq. |
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On 4 Apr 2007 11:52:32 -0700, "Phlip" <phlip2005@gmail.com> wrote:
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Tim Crowley wrote:
is this your attempt to see how many lies you can get in one post?
Damn, you're more of a k00k than spammy.
But don't you see? All those lies are just little temporary
compromises, to server the Greater Good!
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You misspelt "sever".
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"Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the
power to make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire |
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